I simply do not understand

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, May 11, 2020.

  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Almost all Atlantic hurricanes are born is waves coming off the Sahara Desert. Hurricanes have been assigned names
    following the alphabet for over 30 years now.
     
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    cristiansoldier Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I gave it 2 tries but when the response is "Your entire premise is false." it really doesn't leave room for an intelligent discussion.
     
  3. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So this virus is the global virus, because that's where it landed.

    Hurricanes do originate just off the coast in African waters. Look it up.
     
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    I have learned to give him only a couple of chances. Otherwise he'll waste your time.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah there's a good argument.

    Now apply it to West Nile, Zika, and any of a thousand other examples.

    Hurricanes originate over water and since there are no aquatic countries other than Atlantis, it just points to the weakness of the argument you presented here.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Waves coming off the Sahara huh. Right.

    Now go back before they started giving hurricanes names and tell me what the naming convention was.
     
  7. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Then explain why the Black Plague wasn't given the city or country that it started in?
    Why wasn't Small Pox given the name of the country or city it started in?
    Why wasn't SARS called after the name of the country or city it started in?
    Why wasn't Polio named after the area it started in?
    Why wasn't Malaria named after the area it started from?

    Those were some of the biggest killers in history - none of which follow your "naming convention".
     
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    He’s never gonna get it. It’s a losing battle trying to inform people like him
     
  9. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For the same reason these are:

    1957 "Asian flu"
    1968 "Hong Kong flu"
    1977 "Russian flu"
    MERS "Middle East Respiratory Syndrome"
    Plague of Athens
    Plague of Cyprian
    Justinian Plague
    Japanese Smallpox Epidemic
    Black Death (rayyyyciss)
    London Plague
    Ebola
    Zika

    and a million more examples...

    That's the ****ing name they gave it, and it doesn't mean jack ****.

    Giving a virus a name does not make it racist, or derogatory, or any other negative connotations that people who are constantly looking to be offended attribute to it, all on their own in their little fertile imaginations.
     
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    Oh I completely get it.

    It's the terminally offended who never do.

    Leftists continually look for a reason to be offended, and love nothing more than calling other people "racists" over stupid **** like this.
     
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    I have a question for all of you, let's see if you can answer it.

    Would it be racist to call it the New York Virus, or the European Virus as Cuomo called it?
     
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    You've learned how to lose the debate and grasp for excuses anyway.
     
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    Those are geographical features (a river and a forest), not countries. If they were calling Covid-19 the Wuhan virus, you might have a point.

    Along with what others have said, I do have to ask, why is it so important to some people, presumably including you, to call it something other than it's official name?
     
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    There is no point to the name, that's the point.

    It is not people out there demanding we call it the Wuhan virus, which was used by EVERYONE at some point, it's the people saying calling it the Wuhan virus is "wrong" or "derogatory".

    How is calling something the Wuhan Virus or the Russian flu, racist?

    It's just leftists doing what they always do, which is demand we refer to things based on their desire to control in general, and control language specifically.

    Covid19 isn't an "official name". It's a designation for the 19th known version of a coronavirus.

    Covid19 would be like naming your seventh dog "Dog-7".
     
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    And on and on down the rabbit hole he goes....hahahahahaha
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh please.

    If the "Black Plague" ever breaks out again (more than it already does), leftists will be mewling about how calling it the "Black Plague" is a symptom of "white supremacy".

    Don't even try to pretend that's not true.

    There are no reasons they have the names they have. It was just a common name given to it that people could use to recognize it.

    You can sit here and ask "dur why wasn't dis one named after dis or dis" and I can sit here and give 1 for one examples of ones that ARE.

    You're not making a point when you say "well, some of them aren't".
     
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    Says the guy talking to himself who isn't brave enough to ask a direct question or address the issue.

    Keep pretending if it makes you feel better about not having a chance.
     
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    It's a designation for a coronavirus that emerged in 2019. It's not the 19th such virus.

    If the name doesn't matter, then why call it something other than its official name? You, specifically, why don't you want to call it Covid-19?
     
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    Unfortunately you’ll never get a straight honest answer.
     
  20. Daniel Light

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    Not "some of them" - the largest most deadly diseases in history - modern and ancient - were not named by the area they originated in. You made a claim and it was easily shown to be hyperbolic bull crap.
     
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    Great, so it'd be like naming your new pet Dog20 instead. Who cares.

    Ask the people who set the criteria for naming it, the WHO, who specifically set out to name it something that wasn't "racist".

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/victor...es-why-renaming-it-is-important/#1f65ee08548e

    "Under agreed guidelines between WHO, the @OIEAnimalHealth & @FAO, we had to find a name that did not refer to a geographical location, an animal, an individual or group of people, and which is also pronounceable and related to the disease," said Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, Director-General of the WHO.


    The virus is thought to have originated in the city of Wuhan in China, which led to it being frequently named the “Wuhan coronavirus,” or “Chinese coronavirus,” but neither of these were official names and some believe they may have contributed to discrimination against Chinese people.

    Chinese communities from around the world have been reporting racist incidents and dramatic impacts on their business including Chinese restaurants all over the U.S.
     
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    keep hiding behind others, says the guy who says he doesn't "want to waste his time", but is still in here running his Covid hole.
     
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    Racist? Hmmm. I'm not following you. Calling it by anything other than what the medical community calls it just makes you sound moronic. I have not brought racism into the topic of COVID-19, ever. Feel free to quote me if I'm wrong.

    You allow no room for learning, growing and adopting better methods? Which date in history do you believe is when we had the perfect naming convention for absolutely everything?

    We learn, we grow, we develop new strategies --- though I admit there are some holdouts who still believe Pluto is a planet, based completely on their feelz and nothing to do with their understanding of how the entire scientific community came to that conclusion.

    Call it whatever you like. If you want to be understood by more than your fellow partisan loons, you should call it what it has been named. It may not be of critical importance, now, but in 10, 20 or 30 years, after we've seen a few more of these, people will have no idea what you are talking about. Now, explain why you have a deep desire to call it anything except what the medical community calls it?

    COVID-19
    CoronaVirus Disease 2019
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok - now you've just displayed Kellyanne Conway levels of smart, as in, none at all. HAHAHA
     
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    And once again, we have the Trump version of bull crap.
    This Covid is not the 19th version, that's the stupid crap that came out of the White House.

    Covid-19 designates a virus that started in 2019 ... not the 19th version of the virus. Holy crap.
     
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