I'm now uncertain if I want a GOP Senate or Dem

It's what they used to do best. I never voted for them but I respected them for that, at least.

 

Yep. We used to fight tooth and nail for our core principles. We used to believe in something. Instead, it's become "well let's wait until Trump tells us how we should feel." I felt the only way for the GOP to get back to its roots was for a Trump loss.

 

Translation: there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that any Republican could do, or fail to do, that would make you doubt supporting them. Devoid of ongoing evaluation-- that's a Kamikaze rationale.

 

I don't think that Dems holding 50 Senate seats and a relatively small House majority will equate to 'absolute power'. With margins that thin there is no way SCOTUS is going to get expanded (I'm not convinced that would happen under Biden even with a larger majority) and other ambitious ideas such as expanding the number of states or even eliminating the filibuster are far from guaranteed.

 

When LBJ was president, he faced only two filibusters. Obama faced over 100 with McConnell

The Senate has become a body of do-nothings. Every bill dems send over, dies with McConnell. More than 400 to date.

Is that what you want? Not I.

 

Curious where you got your numbers for filibusters? Who tracks that?

Also, why compare Obama to LBJ?

Wouldn't Clinton be a better comparison?

LBJ enjoyed a D House and a D Senate his entire tenure as President.

 

AOC and Joe Manchin are not just any two, generic Democrats, indistinguishable from one another. You know THAT. And the same is true of many in this very diverse caucus, with a good number coming from red & purple states, including quite a few who flipped red districts in 2018; don't expect far-left progressivism out of them. Their wmphasis is on pragmatism & getting givernment to work again. Here's an excerpt from a story about a service-women group, 5 Dems in Congress w/ military backgrounds: Elissa Slotkin of Michigan, Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, Abigail Spanberger of Virginia, Elaine Luria of Virginia, and Mikie Sherrill of New Jersey—are veterans of the CIA, the Navy, and the Air Force.


We came into this knowing each other already and knowing instinctively that [we] are the 'workhorses' rather than 'show ponies,' Slotkin said at the recent breakfast. Houlahan, who represents a district outside Philadelphia that is fairly evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans, said BIPARTISANSHIP matters “very much” to her constituents. That’s likely true of many voters. Indeed, the ideological makeup of the actual Democratic electorate seems to lean toward the CENTER. FIFTY-SIX percent of Democrats self-identify as "MODERATE,” and 9 percent embrace the label “CONSERVATIVE,” according to an April poll from the Judy Ford Wason Center for Public Policy.

Four of the five women involved in the Victory Fund won in heavily Republican districts last fall, and the lawmakers believe that their pledge to WORK ACROSS THE AISLE is ultimately what helped them. For that, some mainstream Democrats argue, they should be getting more recognition. “[Ocasio-Cortez] and a few others have become the face of the Democratic Party at a time when the real story … [is] the story of these women,” Representative Jim Himes of Connecticut, the former chair of the New Democrat Coalition, a centrist ideological group in the Democratic caucus, told me. “They are all about persuading skeptical people to vote Democratic. It was them that made [winning the majority] possible..."


Still, senior Democratic leaders are clearly trying to temper the party’s most progressive impulses. Speaker Nancy Pelosi reminded her party in April that Democrats regained control of the House in November with a slew of “right-down-the-MIDDLE, MAINSTREAM, HOLD-the-CENTER victories.” And she has repeatedly brushed off the ideas put forward by Ocasio-Cortez and other progressive lawmakers, dismissing the Green New Deal as a “green dream...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/589567/

Here's another article about how the centrist Dems blame the morw liberal wing for allowing the Republicans to mischaracterize them, based on a few members from very blue districts.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...b-90dd-abd0f7086a91_story.html?outputType=amp

 

Apparently, he doesn't feel he BELONGS to a political party, whereas you clearly BELONG to-what is called but no longer is-the GOP.

Your cult and devotion to Trump is pathetic.

So, you deny someone the right to change one's mind! You know how this is called?

 

~ If you are Democrat you can continue to vote after death .

 

Sorry Gentle_ Giant, this message was not addressed to you, but to Xyce who is definitely victim of his/her obscurantism.

 

Deripaska is also the same individual who laughed at Crossfire Hurricane and told the investigators that they weren't even investigating anything serious. That was a serious waste of money and air-exhuming oxygen that we will never get back. I hate Crossfire Hurricane and everything that happened as a result. Lies under oath, lies under congressional testimony to the Public and a media all too complicit in the wild goose story.

 

I will always prefer checks and balances. No party should have total control.

 

same here, as long as they are not parties of 'no' that do not want anything good to happen either, just checks and balances for the things they disagree with, not agreeing to the things they do agree with is wrong

both parties should always put America above party

 

If you're a moderate Repub (there aren't many these days) you don't have to "slide further left" in ideological terms just because you recognize the abjectly dishonest message the Right is spewing. For the sake of your party, and the country, you do both a favor by rejecting the lies and the uncompromising stance the GOP has adopted. They do nothing but obstruct at a time when we must act on a number of fronts.

 

Define 'good'. If your definition of 'good' is corporate boot licker and pillager of the citizenry of US then yeah he'll do a good job, more US jobs over seas, your new normal will be licked in your home incommunicado. Carona will be used to deprive you if almost every right worth having and the vaccine will be distributed via whatever identity group the new identity spoils system settle upon but if you are a male caucasian expect that you'll be lucky to have access to it in the next decade. There's too many of us and we tend to vote for the wrong people.
Oh and by the way Senate are only gutless to the extent they kowtow to leftist ideologues. Which has occurred far to frequently in the last few decades.

And by the way anyone who buys into the notion that Trump is a would be dictator but voted for Biden us a damn fool. Biden the corporate sock puppet will be replaced by Harris the corporate sock puppet, within a year. It is Trump for whom Nancy was preparing the 25th amendment ploy.

 

I get a kick out of those taken in by the gaslighting. ‘Trump’s systematic attack on democracy’ while Trump is actually using our democratic system to protest the massive election irregularities. Meanwhile democrats are going to ‘attack democracy’ by doing the same over two house seats and are even asking Pelosi to just declare those democrats even when their competitor had more votes.

Someday the left, which you are now part of, will have their eyes opened when the system is used against them.

 

I like Biden, always have from the days he was a senator to VP. It's not Biden I'm worried about, at least as far a instigating the above. It's Pelosi and Schumer and the rest of the extreme far left. I despise McConnell along with Schumer. I don't trust none of them. As for the filibuster, Biden has no say. That is a traditional senate rule going back over 200 years of history. Schumer could eliminate it with a simple majority. After all it was Reid and the democrats who first utilized the nuclear option.

In other words I don't just want to rely on Biden. If it was the Biden of 20-30 years ago, I probably would. Fact is I want a sure check on one party rule, the surest is not to let it happen. Or at least try not to let it happen.I don't trust either major party. Both have moved way to far from mainstream America, the average American Joe, one going right, the other left. You can tell this in the rise of independents, from 30% in 2006 to 40% today as folks desert both major parties.

 

I'm not a Republican. Like I made clear including in the message you have quoted, I'm an independent. I don't trust either party. The GOP though, is alienating me more, in the sense that I still vote for Republicans in many races but may refrain from doing so in the next election unless they shape up and abandon this nonsense of endorsing, by their silence, Trump's attack on Democracy. For president, I voted for Biden. In 2016 as I disliked both Trump and H. Clinton, and I wrote another name in. This time I did consider voting for Trump as I acknowledge some of the things he did right, but he progressively lost me, then lost me for good when he continued to minimize Covid-19 and even started attacking medical doctors who are fighting this pandemic, saying that we are falsifying information on death certificates to make more money (something that is utterly preposterous for various reasons I've explained elsewhere). I'm not entirely a one-issue voter. I gave careful consideration to a large number of factors before I decided to vote for Biden; I'm just talking about the straw that broke the camel's back. And now, with Trump's attack on Democracy, I am relieved that indeed I didn't vote for him.

 

Independents, centrists, moderate voters like you are getting more and more alienated by the GOP shenanigans, and are sliding further left.

Independent voters like me are getting more and more alienated by the RINO/DINO oligarchy which Joe Biden represents: the imperialists, globalists, war mongers, banksters and corporatists. We are sliding further right.

There are three parties now. The Populist Left (Progressive Socialists), the Populist Right (Nationalist Capitalists), and the RINOs/DINOs (the status quo oligarchs). I'll not vote for a continuation of the last. Biden should be prevented from accomplishing much of anything until 2024, which means that the GOP should win the Senate.

 

Maybe, but some senior ones might, or abstain if they don't like what is proposed.

On the other side, for at least the last 3 years, Trump has terrorized the repubs in the house, in the senate and the governors...and he's still doing it now.

 

Nothing is infinitely better than the something the Dems are proposing. Oh and for what it's worth Dems held both house if congress by substantial Margins under LBJ. Try comparing apples to apples say dingy Harry when Bush was president.

 

Your Party never was for anything but greater government repression of everyone. Give institutionalized nutcases Thompsons but let's outlaw abortions at the same time we cut welfare to feed children and everyone unemployed is a moocher while Social Security is GODLESS SOCIALISM. Buzzards eating corpses outside of locked hospital doors are a good lesson to the indolent and We SHOULD have old and sick people living under bridges,
that shows Capitalism is working.

That's REAL Republicanism for you. It predates Trump, he just made it more obvious, (and crazier)

 

The last time your party proposed something worthwhile let alone good us decades in the past.

 

I thought the infrastructure deal was a needed one that both parties could agree on, dems were willing to work with Trump on that....

Maybe Biden can get it passed and create jobs after the virus is dealt with

Trump had a chance to end Marijuana prohibition, but is gonna fail to sign that historic bill into law too, dems were willing to let him have that win

 

Trump proposed that Nancy hated it. Didn't send enough money to Democrat donors...