I'm now uncertain if I want a GOP Senate or Dem

nope, Nancy was willing to work with Trump on Infrastructure, Trump walked out.... Trump's fragile ego was his biggest flaw

 

I have completely lost respect for the congress people, the media and the people on forums like these who have been peddling the seditious tripe that trump has been spewing since he lost the election.
While there are many principled repubs who have rejected trump's calls to rig the election and have upheld our democratic traditions, too many have enabled his reprehensible actions.
We should aim to rid government of every single person who has been defending trump's shameful attempts at sedition, from McConnell on down.

 

I'm now uncertain if I want a GOP Senate or Dem

More importantly you should want a split congress to reduce partisan bills. If two sides can't agree on what is best for the country then it shouldn't become law. It shouldn't matter which party has which house of congress. It really only matters that each party have only one.

 

the Senate is holding up a vote for the end of Marijuana prohibition, this should be a hot topic in the GA runoff elections

most republicans support ending Marijuana prohibition, make republicans publicly say they are against it if they are.... see if the people vote for them

 

Wrong. Nancy's desire to reward Democrat bundlers was the flaw

 

please explain what you mean, details help us understand what your tryign to say

Trump walked out before discussions even began

 

The devil with these things is always in the Details. Remember Obama's first stimulus that was supposed to go for shovel ready jobs and in reality went mostly to teachers, and other government employees? Think round two of that.

 

The last time the Dems had all 3 branches for a scant couple of months We the People became the BENIFICIARIES of the COMPROMISE that was the ACA over the histrionics of the extremist Tea Party rightwingers who were parading around with guns and tricorn hats.

Subsequently these same extremists have EMBRACED the ACA because they now appreciate having AFFORDABLE healthcare and this has STYMIED all attempts by the GOP to repeal it.

The Dems are MODERATES and understand the CONCEPT of Compromise upon which our nation was FOUNDED.

Supporting the Dem candidates in the GA runoffs makes a great deal more sense than another INSANE 4 years of mindless gridlock that will continue the death spiral of the middle class.

Look at it this way, if it turns out to be a mistake the checks and balances can be restored in 2022.

We the People NEED to ENABLE the Dems to remediate the HARM done by the GOP during the past 4 years ASAP.

FTR I am a FISCAL conservative Independent who understands that the tax cuts for the WEALTHY and CORPORATIONS are destroying the basis of our economy and the FUTURE for our children and grandchildren.

Vote Dem in GA for a RETURN to fiscal SANITY.

 

we were talking about the infrastructure deal attempted under Trump, not Obama

 

Exactly Nancy wanted a repeat of Obama Trump wanted a real infrastructure plan.

 

Yep!
Put the bill on the floor for a vote. That's how it should work.

 

Sliding left? Have you changed your stance on anything or have you merely learned those you thought supported your position don’t.

I suspect it’s the latter.

Over the years we’ve been witnessing the slow death of reason in the Republican Party.

 

It's probably the latter.

 

Partisan drivel

 

nope, Trump walked out before a deal even was discussed

 

And Trumpleton's have yet to be held accountable for those lies.

 

Nah, it's evidence of critical thought.

Not needed for the Trump Party. Trump demands blind loyalty. No thought allowed.

If you think Trump is conservative you're dreaming

 

Yours was first.

 

Better to rid government of the election organizations involved in voter fraud first.

 

If you look at the history of filibusters, under any party, you'll find that they careened beyond any semblance of normalcy under McConnel v Obama

 

The problem of course is that the senate can only fulfill a check and balance role IF it remains in republican hands. Even then it would be quite limited due to the very narrow margin.
If the senate goes democratic, the move to all the things that rational people don't want to see will take place. Socialism interests will grow, 1st commandment rights will be curtailed to suit political guidelines, the booming economy will be gutted by restoring old tax laws under which it never thrived, new and near confiscatory tax laws will get passed, 2nd amendment rights will will be attacked and further infringement will be authorized, the censorship of big tech will thrive with democratic approval, our police and justice system will degrade and what's left of our free press will be pretty well eviscerated.

George Soros has been attacking democracy for decades, and that is well known. He has and finances a an organization called the "Open Society Foundation". The president of that foundation, Patrick Gaspard, has just resigned- and according to speculations, may well be Biden's Secretary of Labor. It seems pretty obvious that among Biden's guidelines of choice, diversity has at least equal or more weight than ability; political debts are paid with political assignments, and shows a predisposition to embrace radical changes rather than stability. Too many people own a piece of Joe; and he's an old hand at the game.

While this is what I believe to be true, there is no way to prove it will- or to prove it will not. But, if we do not maintain a means to check radical and corrupt policies, it can happen- so allowing a democratic senate says we will trust the people who invented the dossier and discarded all moral limits in the effort to crush Trump.... to act like honorable Americans again.

This is without question like betting on very long shot; it's just not going to happen. Most importantly, this could set in motion changes that would be virtually impossible to reverse, much like jumping out of the plane assuming the surplus parachute you picked up cheap will actually work. What we have to lose by maintaining the small check and balance ability is minimal- what we have to lose by discarding it is damn near unlimited- including the nation as we now know it.

 

I think the evidence is incontrovertible, that the GOP has long since slid into becoming a party-before-country Faction, the exact thing that the Founders loathed and feared about political parties. (There is no way one could draw an equivalence between that and the Democratic party, even IF the party was taken over by the Squad).

It's precisely because the GOP had become so corrupted, that they were susceptible of being taken over by an Authoritarian Demagogue in the first place. Under the Cult of the Demagogue, the GOP has become a formally Fascist Authoritarian party.

Anyone who is genuinely interested in saving the country from its further descent into Fascism, must punish the party that has been taken over by a Fascist Cult of personality. The GOP as a whole will never regain its sanity, until it has been soundly defeated, up and down the ballot, in multiple elections. 'Til then, the Democrats should be in power. The Democrats at least have demonstrated genuine ideological diversity in their ranks; there is lively intra-party debate between the AOC crusaders and the Red-state reps in Congress. For the time being that will do as a form of political opposition.

 

Wrong.

 

Load of crap Dems have always been the authoritarian party...
The only 4 term president in US History, and with the Dems it's power, raw naked political power over everything.

 

This has been a big topic around here as well.

We do prefer split government, but this is a unique situation.

Trump is wandering around Georgia telling Georgians how corrupt they are. That may not sit too well. Republicans could pay mightily for their support of his madness.