Is health care a right or a privelege?

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  1. IMMensaMind

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    Good grief. You're an economics noob. It doesn't matter that Cubans don't pay for healthcare directly; they pay by being punitively taxed, and they make less than 10% of what Americans make.

    Did you not know that?
     
  2. Sallyally

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    Yep , free markets.
    In August 2015, the rights were bought by Turing Pharmaceuticals. Turing subsequently became known for a price hike controversy when it raised the price of a dose of the drug in the U.S. market from US$13.50 to US$750, a 5,500% increase.
    Pyrimethamine - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Pyrimet...
     
  3. Sallyally

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    It's a socialist country. Of course he knew that.
     
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    The "rights". Meaning the interference in the market referred to as patent.
     
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    ...And the dumb just keeps on comin

    That you failed to make a cogent argument...
    That you failed to make a fact based argument...
    That your argument is nonsensical...

    Does not change the fact that you tried and failed.
     
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    It is a right as guaranteed by Article 25 of the International Declaration of Human Rights. And any country that does not guarantee it is a Human Rights violator.
     
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    Healthcare is neither a right or a privilege, it is a service.
     
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    I don't understand what you are saying. Do you mean that he has bought the patent, or is it another reference?
     
  9. Vegas giants

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    But it could be a right
     
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    Your link says you're lying.

    There are no regulations that forced Milan to raise prices. The corporate drive for ever increasing profits did. Patent laws have been in place nearly 200 years. Seems a bit late in the game to declare them "bad" regulations.
     
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    Gov't owes us a safe and healthy enviorment and a scientific education of what things do to us. As a techniclogical society with ; Radiated waves flying through air from satilites and smokes stacks from factories, water treatment plants, etc..etc... In the modern techno' age, YES, gov't owes us heath care.
    DO I have to pay for your health care ? NO. I say No.
     
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    contradiction is not an argument. But thanks for pointing out how truthful that old monty python skit is by providing a real-life example.
     
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    The poverty in Cuba has been noted.

    The Cuban people enjoy one of the best health care systems in the world with outcomes matching those in the US DESPITE that poverty and DESPITE spending 1/10 as much.
     
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    No more that a Subway sandwich is a right.
     
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    Well that could be a right too. Kind of like public education
     
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    Funny how when Ebola kills a few people, everyone screams for the CDC to get a handle on it and treat the victims to save lives. But have cancer kill hundreds of thousands of Americans, and Trump cuts funding for research.

    Strange world we live in.
     
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    I'm saying patents, i.e. state prohibition on how one may use his own legitimate property.
     
  18. IMMensaMind

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    Then why is he attempting to claim that Cuba has attained some sort of 10:1 economic efficiency metric wrt health care expenditure as compared to the US?
     
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    Public education requires the forcible confiscation of other people's property.
     
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    Public education is also not a right but a noble concept inspired by the idea an educated populous would be necessary to maintain a free country.
     
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    Damm right...oh and almost every country on the planet does it. Lol
     
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    Nope it's a right. Try to deny it to a kid. Any kid in the US. Lol
     
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    You're an idiot. I said that regulations caused the price of the Epipen to soar, and the link establishes that.

    :facepalm:

    Regulations created a skewed market environment which removed the checks which ordinarily exist to PREVENT a company from being the sole source of a product, and - thus - being the sole determinant of price.

    You are TRULY an economics noob.

    You don't know what you're talking about, and that link soundly shuts down your nonsense.
     
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    CHRIST.

    They DON'T spend 10% of what we do. A dollar in Cuba spends like $10 here!
     
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