Islam Thread (2)

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by OJLeb, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. OJLeb

    OJLeb New Member

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    free man Well-Known Member

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    Yes, woman are free to hide so no one will see them. If possible a huge black blanket will be used.

    Glad you asked, Islam is about freedom. In this case the freedom to die.

    Is say "alla is akbar" kill them all.

    Sure, and if they don't, see the previous answer.
    see previous answer.
     
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    Ohhh. Clearly you are a hater.... Good luck with that.
     
  4. OJLeb

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    It's best to just ignore them. They don't need our help looking like idiots.

    Compare his post to the one I posted in response to Bored Dead.

    Enough said.
     
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    There are those who want reconciliation and a just peace.. and those who will fight that to there last breath.
     
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    umm yes, it does make one less religious.
    You don't pick and chose the parts of religion you like and throw out everything else and say you belong to that religion. That is just a form of the religion and your own.
     
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    Homies be leavin islam, disobeyin'

    Off with their heads yahhh not just a sayin'

    Free man be hatin' cuz he aint down with the death cult better recognize to be jew in islam thats an insult



    In all seriousness, is somene here really casually saying apostasy in islam is punishable by death, and is that same person calling someone else a hater for having problems with that?

    Just checking...
     
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    There is nothing in the Christian doctrine that teaches murder. There is in the Islamist doctrine.
     
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    qed .
     
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    Dont be ridiculous. Mohammed was peaceful therefore all muslims must follow his peaceful ways.

    Timeline of Muhammad's Life
    (A.D)

    570 - Born in Mecca
    576 - Orphaned upon death of mother
    595 - Marries Kadijah - older, wealthy
    widow
    610 - Reports first revelations from angel at
    age of 40
    619 - Protector uncle dies
    622 - Emigrates from Mecca to Medina (the
    Hijra)
    623 - Orders raids on Meccan caravans
    624 - Battle of Badr (victory)
    624 - Evicts Qaynuqa Jews from Medina
    624 - Orders the assassination of Abu Afak
    624 - Orders the assassination of Asma bint
    Marwan
    624 - Orders the assassination of Ka'b al-Ashraf
    625 - Battle of Uhud (defeat)
    625 - Evicts Nadir Jews
    627 - Battle of the Trench (victory)
    627 - Massacre of the Qurayza Jews
    628 - Signing of the Treaty of Hudaibiya
    with Mecca
    628 - Destruction and subjugation of the
    Khaybar Jews
    629 - Orders first raid into Christian lands at
    Muta (defeat)
    630 - Conquers Mecca by surprise (along
    with other tribes)
    631 - Leads second raid into Christian
    territory at Tabuk (no battle)
    632 - Dies
     
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    What i could do with 50k more dollars...


    "Muhammad is a narcissist, a pedophile, a mass murderer,
    a terrorist, a misogynist, a lecher, a cult leader, a madman
    a rapist, a torturer, an assassin and a looter."
    Former Muslim Ali Sina offered $50,000 to anyone
    who could prove otherwise based on Islamic texts.
    The reward has gone unclaimed.
     
  12. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    [video=youtube;Q5t9U9r9Kfs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5t9U9r9Kfs[/video]

    What was good for Mohammed is good for the muslim.

    The REAL Muslim.
     
  13. stroll

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    does this apply to all or only fellow Muslims?
     
  14. RiseAgainst

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    The Truth about American Muslims:
    Half believe “parodies of Muhammad
    should be prosecuted criminally in the
    US, one in eight call for death penalty
    for insulting Islam, 40% say sharia law
    not US law

    Wednesday, October 31, 2012 15:01

    While Muslim Brotherhood groups like Hamas-CAIR lie and
    deceive about
    the true nature of sharia and jihad, the truth will out, no matter
    how
    the brutally it is suppressed:

    “Poll finds what they really think about Constitution, Shariah”
    Bob Unruh, WND

    Nearly half of 600 Muslim-American citizens polled who plan
    to vote
    in the 2012 presidential election believe parodies of
    Muhammad should be
    prosecuted criminally in the U.S., and one in eight say the
    offense is
    so serious violators should face the death penalty.

    The results came in a groundbreaking scientific poll for WND
    by the public-opinion research and media consulting company
    Wenzel Strategies. It was taken Oct. 22-26 and carries a
    margin of error of plus or minus 3.98 percentage points.

    The poll also found 40 percent of Muslims in America believe
    they
    should not be judged by U.S. law and the Constitution, but by
    Shariah
    standards.

    And the big winner among Muslim-Americans in the
    presidential
    election is Barack Obama, the poll found. More than 72 percent
    said they
    are definitely supporting Obama, and another 8.5 percent are
    leaning
    that direction. Only 11 percent are for Romney.

    Nearly 55 percent of the American Muslim voters say the U.S.
    is on
    the right track, and another 13 percent are uncertain. Virtually
    all of
    the respondents (98 percent) are American citizens and 97
    percent are
    registered to vote.

    “Almost half of those Muslims surveyed – an astonishing 46
    percent –said they believe those Americans who offer criticism or
    parodies of
    Islam should face criminal charges,” said pollster Fritz Wenzel
    in an
    analysis of the survey’s results.

    “Even more shocking: One in eight respondents said they think
    those
    Americans who criticize or parody Islam should face the death
    penalty,
    while another nine percent said they were unsure on the
    question,” he
    said.

    Wenzel said even the 9 percent “undecided” on that particular
    question is alarming.

    “Seldom in survey research does a response of ‘not sure’ carry
    such
    significance, but the response to this question certainly is a
    surprise,
    given the severity of the question, and offers insight into the
    conflict that some Muslims appear to face in making the ideals
    under-girding American society fit into their religious lifestyle,”
    he
    said.

    Wenzel’s poll said 7.2 percent of the respondents said they
    “strongly
    agree” with the idea of execution for those who parody Islam,
    and
    another 4.3 percent said they somewhat agree.

    While 80 percent said that they somewhat or strongly disagree
    with
    the idea, when those who said they were not sure are added,
    one in five
    Muslims across America cannot say they believe Christians or
    others who
    criticize Muhammad should be spared the death penalty.

    More Muslim women (10.4 percent) than Muslim men (4.9
    percent) said
    they strongly agree with the idea, while 12.4 percent of the
    women and
    7.1 percent of the men were uncertain about the issue involving
    Muhammad.

    Four in 10 said Muslims in America should not be judged by
    U.S. law and the Constitution, but by Islamic Shariah law.

    “A much smaller percentage said they think the U.S. should
    establish
    an entirely separate court system to adjudicate matters
    involving
    Muslims,” Wenzel said.

    While the respondents overwhelmingly lean toward the
    Democratic Party
    and like the direction Barack Obama, who repeatedly has
    praised Islam
    around the world, is leading this nation, they also have a
    fundamental
    conflict with American life, expressing objections to the
    freedom of
    speech and religion guaranteed in the Constitution.

    American Muslims, Wenzel said, “show signs of ambivalence
    toward the
    U.S. Constitution generally and the First Amendment
    specifically.”

    “These survey findings show a community in conflict with the
    foundations of our nation, as many Muslims favor and enjoy
    the freedoms
    offered by the U.S. Constitution, including participation in
    elections
    here, but at the same time significant percentages want to be
    treated
    differently than the average non-Muslim when it comes to legal
    matters,”
    he said.

    “While 39 percent of Muslims said they believe existing U.S.
    courts
    should consult Shariah law when adjudicating cases involving
    Muslims, a
    plurality of 45 percent said they do not agree with this idea.
    Asked if
    the U.S. should establish separate courts based solely on
    Shariah law to
    adjudicate cases involving Muslim, 21 percent said it should.
    Two-thirds of respondents – 66 percent – said that separate
    courts are
    not necessary to adjudicate Muslims.”

    While 9 of 10 of the Muslim respondents said they agree with
    the
    First Amendment, they are also in conflict with it, Wenzel said,
    citing
    evidence in answers to “another question in the survey which
    found that
    one-third of Muslims – 32 percent – believe Shariah should be
    the
    supreme law of the land in the United States,” Wenzel said.

    “Another shocking finding from the survey is how Muslims view
    the
    religious freedoms of Christians. Asked whether U.S. citizens
    who are
    Christians have the right to evangelize Muslims to consider
    other
    faiths, just 30 percent agreed Christians have such a right.
    Another 42
    percent said they do not have such a right, while 28 percent
    said they
    were unsure on the question.”

    One in five say Muslim men should be allowed to follow their
    religion
    in America and have more than one wife, and 58 percent said
    criticism
    of their religion or of Muhammad should not be allowed under
    the
    Constitution.

    While 43 percent said they disagreed with the idea of Christians
    evangelizing Muslims, another 27 percent said they were
    undecided. Only
    19 percent said they “strongly agree” with the idea that
    Americans have a
    right to invite Muslims to consider another faith.

    Nearly one in three said Israel either has no right to exist or
    they were uncertain whether it does.

    Read more: http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-co...lam-40-say-sharia-law-not-us-law-2515494.html
     
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    You don't hear much about it, because either the US media do not report it or you are not looking.

    Here an example:
    http://middleeastvoices.voanews.com...cks-in-libya-egypt-ibrahim-hooper-cair-96980/
    http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph...ganizations-condemn-attacks-on-u.s.-embassies

    There also have been counterdemonstrations by Egypt Muslims, apologising to the US, pictures and reports were in the news in Germany.
     
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    No group goes more bonkers than the Jews. They have the whining down to a science.
     
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    Brothers and sisters in Islam, take a guess.
    However, not addressing others the same way doesn't imply bigotry.
     
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    If you insist on using a lie, make it harder to find out you're a bull sh1tter .

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/08/anti-muslim-blogoshpere-runs-amuck-forced-to-eat-crow/

    They aren't the brides, idiot.

    However, here's a Jewish **** sucker.

    tumblr_lzbyd9FgZn1qlh1nvo1_500.jpg

    batmitzvah.jpg
     
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    No, it just implies exclusion.
    Yeah, that's nice. lol
     
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    That TAM source is just what I was looking for. Thanks. I do wish those voices were more loudly represented here in the US.
     
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    As far as I can tell from the Quran, what you are referring to is permission for Muslims to fight those who fight against them. That's what most people call ''self-defence.''

    If you want examples of instructions to kill infidels for various reasons such as enticing someone from your town to worship some other god, then I suggest you refer to the Torah.
     

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