Islamist militants strike heart of Tehran, Iran blames Saudis

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    They have invaded many countries through their campaign of terror.

    But simply being the sworn enemy of Israel and Saudi Arabia not to mention the US is reason enough to deny them the nuclear capability
     
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    Thanks for your knowledgeable analysis, professor.

    Losers? They stand up to this day to a foreign nuclear power bent on their destruction, with sticks and stones. I'd say they're quite resilient and admirable in their resistance. How many crimes have they commited on you, anyway? Much less than Israel ever did to you, I'd bet.

    Much of the comments you wrote in the last one could have been about jews in the 1930s.
     
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    You can count troops as well and Arab/Muslim forces far outnumber us, so ?, having so many rockets and using them are two diffrent things, that too has been proved in Iraq, Lebanon and Gaza many times.
    I missed that UN session where only Lebanon is allowed to kill hunderds (ot thousands as you said) of Israelis and Israel is not allowed to kill any Lebanease, how can you keep mix whining and threats of destruction in the same sentence is a mystery to me....
    But Hizbi shooting at our civilians is OK because we have bomb shelters and we're Jews, this equation ended in 2006.
     
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    They stand at all because they are fighting a western country, if they had to fight an Arab ruler they wouldnt have existed at all, its not throu their "resilience" but compasion of their enemy, because we do work and live together they are no all treated as enemies.
     
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    Pathetic. I give you a second chance.

    Israel is pretty much everyone's enemy out there, for starters, and the creation of Hizbollah, allies of Iran, was caused by Israeli aggression on Lebanon.

    As for Saudi Arabia, the less I talk about them, the less I will piss out Margot. These two nations you named, they're at the basis of almost every trouble that's going down and splattering out in the ME, up to and including ISIL, fighting secularism, ignoring democracy and putting up autocratic rulers instead of elected ones.

    Nuclear parity with Israel will stabilize the region, just like it stabilized the India-Pakistan one. Iran can't be an agressor as Israel is, even if they tried very hard.
     
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    Your "compassion" is just eagerness to commit a genocide in the most PC way possible.
     
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    If we were half eager - we would have decades ago.
     
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    Iran has not physically marched into other countries but if that is your only standard for good international citizenship you are mistaken

    Iran is a major player in world terrorism

    Most liberals hate the Bible but Iran believes its koran and the promise of a firey end to civilization

    Their leaders are fully ready to plunge their country into a nuclear war to destroy Jews, Sunni's and Christians
     
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    You are talking about a Hezbollah that defeated Israel even outnumbered in every battle that mattered in 2006, such as the Battle for Bint Jbeil. And Hezbollah is much stronger today than in the past.
    In any case, I have cited Israeli military experts and I you want I will post their views once again.
    You seem confused. If war breaks out because Hezbollah initiates an attack, then the consequences would properly be blamed on Hezbollah. But even the Israelis acknowledge that Hezbollah is not going to initiate such a war, not because it can't do as much damage to Israel as every military expert I have read acknowledges it can, but because it doesn't want Lebanon to suffer the consequences.
    What makes Israel's actions terrorism is that it is not aimed at self-defense: the Israelis want to attack Hezbollah and then turn around and say if you hit us back, we will destroy Lebanon.
    For me, being Jew or Muslim or Christian isn't the issue. It is who is being the oppressor and aggressor. And who is simply trying to stand up to the aggression and oppression?
    As for bomb shelters, if there is a war with Hezbollah, you will be spending a lot of time in one of them. But even so, unless the entire country is going to stop and hide in bomb shelters, the estimates of Israeli casualties remain in the thousands.
     
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    Iran will either play along or get neutered, the only place you have to flex your "power" is in forums such as this, its amusing at first but gets boring after a while.
     
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    It ain't for lack of trying, thought.
     
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    The powers there are a-shifting, my friend. Looks like it's time for you to find a new host to parasite before you're going down with the actual one - but I trust in your experience.

    Anyway, if the sticks and stones don't get you in the long run, demographics will. :)
     
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    Honestly, you belong in an insane asylum. But even if you aren't totally insane, you simply are so clueless and so brainwashed that it would be best if you simply didn't post such nonsense. I can't believe I am reading this junk!
     
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    Iranians are bad people and your childish insults toward me cannot change that
     
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    A strong terror org is still a just terror org, Arabs never lost a war since 1948 I wont debate with you on your victories because they all end in the same way, a binding resolution on Israel to stop the "carnage".
    So the goal of Israel is to destroy Lebanon but they fear Hizbi retaliation 'cause they are soo strong, so why didnt Isreal destroy Lebanon before Hizbi became so strong ? why Israel seeks Lebanon destruction in the first place ? I mean we do not seek Jordan destrustion do we ?
    But you know that if you leave us alone we will leave you alone, that our issues with the Palestinians is around borders and Jerusalem, "oppressor and aggressor" stories are not of short supply in the ME - you focus on us because it unifies the Arab/Muslim world.
     
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    Really, and they survived the bombs how ? dodging them ?
    Gaza is so crowded a single bomb in a market can kill hundreds of ppl, how many bombs did Israel deploy on Palestinian markets in all their wars to justify your claim ?
     
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    I'd say it's damn relevant, yes.

    I don't think the recent events in Europe involve Iran in any way. In fact, I heard Iran was the target of terrorism too. On the other hand, Israel (all with the best of intentions, of course) all but created Hamas and are responsible for Hizbollah as well. We won't say anything about the Wahabist philosophy that's pouring out of the Arabic peninsula and that the occident also pushes for, uncounsciously or not.

    Hating Iran is an exclusive zionist/autocratic, regressive trait.

    Most liberals think religions are somewhat foolish and that their extremists are dangerous. I should know - I know one.

    Yes, of course - Iranians are not human beings aspiring to happiness, peace or prosperity, but hive-live androids solely created to kill jews. It is useless to use rationale in their case.
     
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    And, just as certain as night follows day, Muslims will look to others to blame for their own ignorance and hate.
     
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    You kill as much of them as you think you can get away with. You must think I am a stupid goy, do you?
     
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    Every time Arabs or their dogs fulfilled the threats on Israel it ended with their loss of land, binding resolutions and UN special funds for the poor violent Arabs.
     
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    I don't care what Arabs lost or won. Israel lost to Hezbollah in 2006. You can call them in any name you want, but I am confident that Iran has helped build a force in Lebanon that is strong enough to stand up to Israel. Which is why the Israeli need to bring everyone else, the US, Wahhabi Arabia and the so-called "Arab Nato", to change the equation.
    You are intentionally being obtuse. What I said was clear enough: Israel wants to hit at Hezbollah, prevent it from getting even stronger, and to deter Hezbollah from hitting back at Israel in response, threatens Lebanon's destruction if they do.
     
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    If iranians are aspiring for happiness they have a strange way of showing it.

    Because nuclear war with the US, Israel and Saudi Arabia will be a very unhappy experience for them
     
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    The occidental XXIth century is a schizoid one. That's a matter of mental survival here.
     
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    Yeah - even their dogs are evil.
     
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    All the arabs had to do in 1947 was accept the peaceful settlement offered by the UN and they refused
     

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