Israel demolishes West Bank homes, displacing 36 Palestinians

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The distinction is that the Ethnic Cleansing of Gaza is being funded by resources (arms, ordinance, tax dollars etc) by my government.

    Without America's $Trillions [1] the Extremist, Right Wing element of Israeli government couldn't afford its Ethnic Cleansing, illegal Settlements, regional aggression, refusal to make peace etc.

    Name ONE other 60 year old illegal Occupation, & Ethnic Cleansing only made possible by America's $ Trillions when those same funds could be used to improve the lives of American citizens, America's grossly underfunded V.A. Hospitals etc.

    You may not care about the well being of other Americans or the mutilation, gassing & burning alive of Palestine's native residents funded by the U.S. but most ethical & decent Americans do [2]








    [1] “Estes: U.S. aid to Israel has surpassed trillion-plus dollars since 1973”
    http://staugustine.com/opinions/2010-07-24/us-aid-israel-has-surpassed-trillion-plus-dollars-1973


    “The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion”
    http://www.wrmea.com/archives/june2003/0306020.html


    “The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel – $3(*)Trillion”
    https://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-real-cost-of-us-support-for-israel-3-trillion/
    EXCERPT “ While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg.

    There are many billions of dollars more in hidden costs and economic losses lurking beneath the surface. A recently published economic analysis has concluded that U.S. support for the state of Israel has cost American taxpayers nearly $3 trillion ($3 million millions) in 2002 dollars.

    “The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion” is a summary of economic research done by Thomas R. Stauffer.

    Stauffer is a Washington, D.C.-based engineer and economist who writes and teaches about the economics of energy and the Middle East.

    Stauffer has taught at Harvard University and Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service.
    ” CONTINUED




    [2] “MAJORITY OF U.S. CITIZENS THINKS U.S. GIVES TOO MUCH TO ISRAEL”
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/google...ens-think-us-gives-too-much-to-israel/5410863
     
  2. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understand that "Chosen People" is similar to an "assignment" or "responsibility" to fulfill God's Commandments etc but only cited one of countless examples (not just Begin) in which Invading Zionist Terrorist Gang members ( "cockroaches", "2 legged dogs" etc) from Europe etc considered / consider themselves superior to Palestine's agrarian native residents.


    I believe that there have been many instances in which the Palestinians would have accepted an equitable peace but Netanyahu has finally made clear that the Israeli government has never wanted to or needed to make peace as long as AIPAC etc ensured that US Aid was guaranteed no matter what the Israeli government did.


    If Israel were truly only "defending" itself rather than engaged in Ethnic Cleansing, it would not deploy banned ordinance that guarantees widespread deaths fatal diseases & ensures birth deaths:

    “The DIME Bomb: Yet another genotoxic weapon, Part III”
    https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=5748
    EXCERPT “ Since early July, Israeli forces have been using a new weapon in the Gaza Strip that inflicts strange and deadly wounds....
    .......DU & NDU bombs are converted to micron-sized particles that sicken and kill and murder the next generation in the womb.”CONTINUED



    “Gaza sees more newborns of malformation”
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-12/31/content_12737744.htm
    EXCERPT “(*)Since the Israeli Operation Cast Lead last winter, the besieged Gaza Strip saw an increase in the proportion of fetus and newborns malformations.
    (*)(*)(*)(*)Thabet Masri, director of neonatal division in the community of medical healing, told Xinhua that from July to September, the rate of children born with different congenital deformities was 17 per month, compared with nine per month over the same period of 2008.
    (*)(*)(*)(*)He said the increase of fetal deformity cases is related to the radioactive and toxic materials resulting from Israel's use of prohibited weapons.

    (*)(*)Doctors at the incubation department in the Shifa Hospital said exposure to toxic chemicals and radioactive substances primarily lead to fetal malformations in the first months of pregnancy when the neural tube is formed.
    (*)(*)(*)(*)Italian scientists said this month that The Gaza Strip's soil contains poisonous and cancer-causing materials after collecting soil samples from several areas bombed during the war.”CONTINUED



    “Israel Used Depleted Uranium Munitions During Gaza Offensive”
    http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2...eted-uranium-munitions-during-gaza-offensive/
    “Tikun Olam
    EXCERPT "British Army doctors warned the British…Ministry of Defence that exposure to depleted uranium increased the risk of developing lung, lymph and brain cancer, and recommended a series of safety precautions.

    This seems perfectly in synch with the typical practice of the IDF to exploit whatever weapons appear convenient and effective, no matter how controversial or even illegal their use might be, especially against a largely civilian population.(*)
    This holds true for cluster bombs, white phosphorus and DIME, all of which Israel has employed during attacks on civilian areas of Lebanon and Gaza.”CONTINUED



    “Nanotechnology and the International Law of Weaponry: Towards International Regulation of Nano-Weapons”
    http://www.jlisjournal.org/content/NasuFaunce20.1.pdf



    “Banned Weapons Used In Israel-Palestine Conflict?”
    http://www.defenseworld.net/news/10...ed_In_Israel_Palestine_Conflict_#.VeSR5s02UzY



    Please note the murder of Gaza's food producing fishermen & poisoning of Palestinian food producing farms I mentioned earlier in the O.P.

    IDF's deployment of illegal ordinance is used for experimentation & Ethnic Cleansing, not "Defense".
     
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    Don't be silly, we don't fund the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Gaza.
     
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    Its hard to understand you with all the metaphors, what terror gangs? modern price tag or the resistances against the Brits?, some of the early 20th century European pioneers did consider themselves culturly supirior but it wanst a Jewish thing, it was a Western thing, and the local Arabs werent that nice either, it wasnt a case of Colmbus greated with gifts by the Indians.

    I never heard anything about refusing peace because of the American aid, the aid can stop the sec the Americans want to, if Israel begs for aid shouldnt it do exactly as the american admin demands? and if AIPAC rules it shouldnt the admin do as Israel wants? didnt feel that at all during Obama....

    There are thousands of reporters in Gaza from respected and propaganda news from all the world, if the population is truly poisioned, if there are deformed deaths and glowing water in the pipes, im sure it would come up in respectful sites and not just "china.view". if they denounced Israel for its bombs you can rest assure they will for radiation poision as well.


    Most Israelis and I think Palestinians- dont belive in peace, I think only the Europeans do and some Americans, there can be no peace but perhaps we can reduce the violence, maybe but I dont see how we'll do that either. but ponder on this, if killing the Palestinians to make way to the israelis was an option - Israel wouldnt hold itself as it does, and it does, we dont retaliate against every rocket fire or every terror attack ans when we do we shoot desereted Hamas posts so no one will die, in rare cases we go to "war", that cant be how a genocide plan is worked out, if you ask me the opposite is much better, let them grow, let them prosper - the muredrous crap will leak out in time if thet enjoy life better. perhaps 50 years from now.
     
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    I started this thread to simply point out that the ruling element in Israel's current government and a growing number of Right Wing Israeli extremists are committed to and carrying out what can only be described as Ethnic Cleansing of the native Palestinian population under the guise of "defense". Up until 2012, 26 Israelis had been killed by ALL of these rockets EVER.

    I focus on this particular Ethnic Cleansing because without the $ Trillions in unconditional funds, weaponry, intelligence sharing and enormous amounts of ordinance; legal & illegal from MY government, these enormities would not have been possible & Israeli governments would have been more likely to seek a just & durable peace based on the '67 borders out of necessity.

    I've spent at least as much time if not more condemning & attempting to persuade my political Representatives (aka AIPAC hirelings) as I do opposing the acts of Israeli governments. You may not see the degree to which US politicians, policy makers are almost entirely subservient to the 100+ Right Wing Israeli lobbies & pressure groups but I do & have. I wish I could show you some of the innumerable "Form letters" I've thrown out from decades of US politicians supposedly representing US interests. Without AIPAC's influence they would not hold & maintain office.

    I can think of no other foreign government so instrumental in driving the US to War as Israel's AIPAC, JINSA etc etc.

    “Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC’s successes over the past year”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun; Jan. ’03


    Since "Operation Cast Lead" in December of 2008, thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians have been killed "overtly", in what can only be described as large scale mass slaughters, "Pillar of Cloud" "Protective Edge" etc. in which these banned weapons I've mentioned have been deployed and continue to be deployed. Thousands more die quietly from the intended effects of the WMDs

    To suggest that because a pro Israel US media does not highlight their deployment & effects & that they don't exist or have not been deployed is simply an extreme form of denial. Throughout this thread I've posted enough evidence, I think, to persuade most reasonable people to recognize Israel's WMDs which have only one intent: to slowly & painfully exterminate a large, crowded & weakened population

    Israel's media & Human Rights groups are far more open than US major media when it comes to Mid East realities.

    “US media hid 2009 UN report showing Israel using chemical weapons against Palestinians”
    http://sputniknews.com/voiceofrussi...g-chemical-weapons-against-Palestinians-5098/


    “Video Shows IDF Snipers Shooting Palestinian Children For Fun, But Facebook Won’t Let You Share It”
    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/0...n-for-fun-but-facebook-wont-let-you-share-it/



    “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion...erage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.Vhb3Zc02XUR


    Since you mentioned that you have children, you should be concerned, as well, that the dust that blows through the area from the WMDs (especially N.D.U., D.U. & D.I.M.E. bombs) causes cancer, birth defects/deaths etc & is not hindered by a 20' tall concrete wall.

    Even though you deny these realities, I don't want you or yours to suffer from them in any way.


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    What silliness. Had the government of Israel been committed to the ethnic cleansing of Arabs, they would have been cleansed. Instead Gaza and the west bank have some of the highest natural population growth rates in the world. Ethnic cleansing would involve a reduction of people of that ethnicity. Like in Gaza where the Jewish population has been reduced to ZERO. Or much of the Arab world where Jewish populations have almost been completely eliminated.
     
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    Read what goes on in the UK

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    Poor Kids Today!


    "Never let anyone outside the family know what you are thinking!", Vito Corleone to his eldest son,
    Santino, RIP - He Passed Too Soon.

    The idea of holding innocent children hostage to P.C. Thought Police because they have a
    "Power Ranger" fantasy is as absurd as absurd can get. :rant:


    Like teachers asking such children to write a fantasy and then persecuting the Politically Incorrect ones!
    The Wusification of Little Boys into Girlie thinking. :steamed:


    Moi :oldman:
    Lord, Protect Us From The P.C.


    r > g


    View attachment 41627
    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.

    Anti :flagcanada: is safe. Whose gonna complain.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Well, a single shot at an 18 yr old child, for throwing a Molotov cocktail at their fellow soldiers. I think addictinginfo.org leaving those details out, evidences their pro Palestinian bias.
     
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    Most Americans don't. Israel can burn the ME to the ground.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are quite right in that: " Israel can burn the ME to the ground...." & has made it quite clear that their ability & willingness to Burn others to the Ground is not limited to the Mid East:


    “Dayan's Mad Dog”
    http://cunningrealist.blogspot.com/2009/07/dayans-mad-dog.html
    EXCERPT " [T]he time may also come when the cost to the US of continuing to support its infinitely importunate protégé in a never-ending conflict against an ever-widening circle of adversaries is greater than its will and resources to sustain it.

    That would very likely be a time when Israel itself is already in dire peril. And if it were, then America would very likely discover something else: that the friend and ally it has succoured all these years is not only a colonial state, not only extremist by temperament, racist in practice, and increasingly fundamentalist in the ideology that drives it, it is also eminently capable of becoming an 'irrational' state at America's expense as well as its own.

    Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."CONTINUED



    “JEFFREY BLANKFORT: “ISRAEL IS THE MOST IMMEDIATE THREAT TO THE FUTURE OF THE PLANET”
    http://america-hijacked.com/2012/08/12/jeff-blankfort-israel-threat-to-future-of-entire-planet/


    “Israeli Professor:’We Could Destroy All European(*)Capitals’
    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-203093


    “ISRAEL AIMS ITS NUCLEAR WARHEADS AT EUROPE”
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article164432.html

    "NUKE GAZA: A WORLD GONE MAD"
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/26/nuke-gaza-a-world-gone-mad/


    "Does Israel Make Us Safer? (Absolutely NOT!)
    http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2010/07/does-israel-make-us-safer-absolutely.html


    " IS AMERICA’S MILITARY PREPARED FOR THE ISRAELI THREAT?"
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/0...cas-military-prepared-for-the-israeli-threat/


    ”How Israel's Nuclear Arsenal Endangers Us All”
    http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september142009/israel_nukes_9-14-09.php


    - - - - - - - - -

    So, not only do the most of the individuals in the country which you unconditionally support regard you as a "sucker":


    “What Do Israelis Think About Americans? Start With Disdain.”
    http://forward.com/articles/216074/...out-americans-start-with/?p=all#ixzz3U6lIMhyL


    EXCERPT “Jerusalem — Though Israel is a famously fractious society, Israelis tend to agree on one thing: Their strongest supporters are an inherently dupable people.
    “Most Israelis think Americans are pro-Israel and we can sell them anything, especially mud from the Dead Sea,”
    “Or — just regular mud with a ‘Dead Sea’ sticker on it.”

    An American might respond with the saying “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me,” and observe that this outlook, with deep roots in the American psyche, rebuts the Israeli stereotype of Americans as ever-trusting.
    But for many Israelis, the question is, why trust anyone even once?"CONTINUED



    ...But their Government is America's greatest Nuclear Threat unless we continue to support it unconditionally.

    Can you blame Iran for wanting defensive missile systems or even its own deterrent nuclear arsenal?
     
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    GeorgiaAmy Well-Known Member

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    America is very pro-Israel. Israel is badass. We're okay with Israeli weapons of mass destruction.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AIPAC's owned & operated U.S. politicians & clueless American dupes of Israel's multi-million Dollar, State run Hasbara network might support America's "Trolls on the Dole" but educated & ethical Americans do not support back-stabbing Ethnic Cleansers:

    “Latest Gallup poll shows young Americans overwhelmingly support Palestine”
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/n...ng-americans-overwhelmingly-support-palestine

    EXCERPT “The public outpouring of support for Palestinians in US streets suggests that Washington's pro-Israel policies are becoming increasingly unpopular, a trend supported by a recent poll on Israel's latest aggression, which finds that young Americans are twice as likely to support Palestinian rights than Israeli occupation."CONTINUED

    AND


    “ISRAEL IS FACING A BACKLASH IN AMERICA”
    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Opinion...cing-a-backlash-in-america.ashx#axzz2xqdABbts

    EXCERPTS “Yet powerful pro-Zionist groups....are suddenly finding themselves increasingly challenged in public. Consequently, their influence is slowly being reduced to a shrinking body of Americans that is primarily composed of politicians in Washington,

    This new tendency to stand up to pro- Israel fanatics in the U.S. reflects expanding global moves by governments, labor unions and others to boycott Israeli government or private institutions colonizing and exploiting Palestinian lands and communities."CONTINUED


    - - - - - - - - - - -


    Europeans who are generally better educated about Levantine history, Geography & Events are equally opposed to the world's most heavily subsidized Ethnic Cleanser:

    “EU POPULAR OPPOSITION TO ISRAEL STRONGER THAN EVER”
    http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/26074-eu-popular-opposition-to-israel-stronger-than-ever

    EXCERPT “Compared to the EU, the United States lags behind in terms of the level of knowledge of, and intensity of opposition to, Israel's conduct.

    Comparing the positions of the general public and the political class on Israel-Palestine in the EU and the US leaves little room for ambiguity:

    The level of knowledge about what is unfolding in historical Palestine is higher, and opposition to Israel's policies is more intense in Europe than in the United States.
    The awareness of Israeli policies of occupation, apartheid, land-annexation and military aggression is at its all-time high within the EU.

    - - - - - - - -

    The many decent & ethical Israelis who are aware of the backlash caused by Right Wing, Extremist Zionist policies seem to understand how destructive the anti-Peace Netanyahu Regime is to Israel's long term best interests:


    “The world is sick of Israel and its insanities”
    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.601243
    EXCERPT “The world is sick of Israel and its insanities.
    Unfortunately, the world has also lost interest in what happens here.
    When Israel was a more just country, the world identified with its victims. It continued to do so even when Israel became less just.

    But now, when Israeli rejectionism is hitting new heights and its oppression of the Palestinians is returning to what it was during the very worst periods, the world has started getting tired of it all. “ CONTINUED

    - - - - - - - - - -

    And, finally, you can't be loyal to 2 separate countries, especially when the Parasitic country is among its Host country's greatest threats:

    “Israel Flagged as Top Spy Threat to U.S. in New Snowden/NSA Document”
    http://www.newsweek.com/israel-flagged-top-spy-threat-us-new-snowdennsa-document-262991


    “An 82-page analysis concludes that Israel is currently the greatest threat to US national interests”
    http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c...eatest-threat-to-us-national-interests/22135/


    “Israeli Spying: The Mother of all Scandals”
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/motherofallscandals.php


    The Lavon Affair: When Israel Firebombed U.S. Installations”
    http://www.washington-report.org/co...-when-israel-firebombed-us-installations.html


    “Israel’s Use of False Flags in Global Terrorism”
    http://americanfreepress.net/?p=12831#sthash.mEKlOr4c.dpuf

    EXCERPT “The use of “false flag” operations by Israel and its Mossad has been documented repeatedly since the Jewish State first came into being. CONTINUED

    - - - - - - - - -

    Chose a country, move there and be loyal to the country you chose.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So many Molotov cocktails?


    “Kids in the crosshairs: Photo of Palestinian children killed by IDF wins World Press Photo award”
    https://www.rt.com/news/gaza-photo-award-target-353/

    “ISRAELI FORCES SHOOT, KILL 13-YEAR-OLD PALESTINIAN NEAR RAMALLAH”
    http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=733631


    “Israeli troops 'shoot disabled Palestinian'
    http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/israeli-troops-shoot-disabled-palestinian
    EXCERPT “ HEBRON // Israeli army troops shot and wounded a physically disabled Palestinian man during an arrest operation in the West Bank city of Hebron yesterday, a prisoners' rights group said.”CONTINUED
    “Israeli Abuse Of Palestinian Children In Prison 'Systematic,' Says UN Report”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...alestinian-children-systematic_n_2817231.html



    “Israeli Shin Bet electrocuted child prisoners to extract confessions”
    http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2011/04/israeli-shin-bet-electrocuted-child.html


    “IDF "Child Killing Unit" Speaks Out”
    http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/idf-chi...

    “Zionists drown in their own hatred: The photos”
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/03/21/zioni...

    “Israeli troops killed Gaza children carrying white flag”
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/01/27/60853/i...

    “Israeli War Crimes Against Children During Operation Cast Lead”
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php...

    "FOUR DEAD, SCORES INJURED AS IDF STRIKES RESIDENTIAL AREA"
    http://rt.com/news/israel-gaza-attack-retalia...

    “Killing by Remote Control: The Bulldozing of Morality”
    http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles9/Peter...
     
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    We hate Muslims. We think ME Muslims are crazy.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Nonsense

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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Cant help but notice that wherever you are challenged, is where you run from.
     
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    Not only that, but this fellow seem to be operating from a twilight zone...
    If I was an Arab and my young son or young daughter have been affected in the exchange of fire, I would keep them at home and not throwing stones and Molotov cocktail at the authority. Recently the upsurge of criminal <stabbers> has been and is being orchestrated by the leaders of Hamas and the PLO working in tandem...

    Israel is not a patsy state! Any Arab <grown up or Juvenile> caught in a criminal act should have his house destroyed and ALL his family deported <FOREVER> from Israel... that this could be considered extreme will not change the fact that the Jews at the receiving end have had their life, family and livelihood curtailed because of an Arab punk determined to kill Jews was brainwashed at schools while preparing Arabic songs to commemorate the idea of killing the hated one i.e.<JEWS> !!

    The deportation of Arabs with criminal assault on Jews should be final until Israel garner enough gumption to arrest their leaders who ebbed their Arab youngsters to commit crimes and be compensated for their murderous acts.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gossip Away!

    Since my time is limited due to "A Life", I don't & can't respond to every, single puerile, Fact-Free, & boorish Post.

    I'm not paid, scripted, and supported by any state as is Israel's network of trained Hasbara Trolls




    &#8220;Covert online students hasbara units directed out of Israeli PM Netanyau&#8217;s office&#8221;
    http://mondoweiss.net/2013/08/cover...ected-out-of-israeli-pm-netanyaus-office.html




    &#8220;ISRAEL&#8217;S PROPAGANDA MACHINE IS BEGINNING TO MISFIRE&#8221;
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...e-is-finally-starting-to-misfire-9636417.html
    EXCERPT &#8220;Benjamin Netanyahu that he has been called &#8220;Bibi&#8217;s brain&#8221;. He is also a former student and employee of Frank Luntz, the Republican strategist who produced a confidential booklet in 2009, promptly leaked, advising Israeli spokesmen how best to manipulate American and European public opinion. &#8220;Don&#8217;t confuse messages with facts,&#8221;
    Dr Luntz stresses that spokesmen must demonise Hamas, but above all emphasise that they feel for the sufferings of Palestinians as well as Israelis.

    The problem about this approach is that it sounds particularly hypocritical when, according to Unicef, 230 children have been killed in Gaza, an average of ten a day, and 2,000 have been wounded by Israeli bombs, shells and bullets.

    Israeli spokesmen are now denying their responsibility for the most notorious and televised atrocities such as the strike on the UN hospital last week.

    This is an old PR tactic, though not one recommended by Dr Luntz, which is sometime referred to as &#8220;first you say no story, then you say old story&#8221;.

    In other words, deny everything in the teeth of the evidence on day one and, by the time definitive proof of the massacre comes through, nobody notices when you have to admit responsibility.

    Gallup poll shows that among Americans aged between 18 and 29 some 51 per cent said Israel&#8217;s actions were unjustified while only 23 per cent said they were.(*)
    For all the good advice of Dr Luntz there are signs of Israeli leaders getting rattled.

    Even the best propaganda machine cannot explain away massacres of civilians as happened in Lebanon at Sabra and Shatila in 1982 and at Qana in 1996 and 2006.&#8221;CONTINUED
     
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    Omg, I just had a flashback to Children of the Corn. I had nightmares of Malachi with a sickle for months.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm afraid that by simply posting Rachel's picture, you're inviting the usual tasteless jokes about her death by apologists of today's "holocaust".

    Sadly, the word can accurately be applied, today, as thousands of innocent civilians are , mutilated, suffocated & incinerated by White Phosphorus, conventional ordinance, poison gas & Israel's experimental, genotoxic weapons of a "Mengele-esque" nature.

    While Rachel Corrie is routinely ridiculed & slandered by apologists for Israel's Ethnic cleansers, heaven help anyone who criticizes today's current gaggle of Fame & Cash Crazed "Nazi Hunters", similar self promoting Holocaust® profiteers & its respective, self appointed, multi-millionaire "High Priests".

    We can do nothing to prevent tragedies of the past except to fight those that are currently occurring.

    The excuses & racist language used by genocidal perpetrators of today's Ethnic Cleansing in Palestine & their apologists are no different than those used decades ago.

    Thanks for the photo.
     
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    You have 2 mistakes here: what you call ethnic cleansing is in fact setteled throu Osslo accords, treaties must be respected or else all the land is disputed and not just area C. the Palestinians decided they wont negotiate any more according to Osslo and want a clean slate on 67 lines, we disagree.
    The rocket fire is just one example or the terror/war used against us, we have stabbing and shooting attacks every day for the passing 2 years, if my city had 4-5 attacks by Palestinians that hadgot a work permit - I will support rejecting all work permits for Palestinians regardless of political wing.

    The aid didnt reach 1 Trillion let alone Trillions, you are talking out of your guts not your head and it casts a dark shaow over everything you write to please stay focused.

    A few questions for you to check via your reliable sources, When did the aid start ?, how did Israel do vs. its enemies before the aid started ? how much tech do you think we need to fight Hamas and PLO ? I assume you dont regard Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan as a threat to Israel in the coming years.
    The tail wags the dog? as I see it its your senate house and your congress that suports our leaders and affect our politics, we now have a lobby for Guns to every civilian did you know that ? started a few weeks ago, where do you think this came from ? France ? no its your gun freaks in the US that promotes this.
    The US never went to war for Israel and never fought next to it in wars we did have, the US ships guns to Israel and that's the help we get like in 1973. we had the same issues with Iraq as we had with Lebanon, Syria and Iran, nothing special that required war, Saddam didnt bomb us till the US opened the war on him, why did it attack Iraq and not Lebanon ??? (a much closer, smaller and HOSTILE country to Israel than Iraq) - maybe something to do with Oil, I dunno.
    Death is a part of making war, you declare war and shoot at your enemy - expect being shot back, about a Thousands of civilians died and 2 Thousands of militants died, not even God can save those that want to die martyr deaths, if they stand next to a rocket launcher and scream to Allah than there is a good chance he will answer them face to face, those that care about living will get as far as possible from Hamas facilities and rocket sites.
    They used WP one time is pillar I think, and that's it, no radiation poision, no starvation and no water poisioning and the Media is really not pro-Israeli, its hasnt been during the last OP and never since, when 3 terrorists stab ppl in Tel Aviv and get shot tha headlines are "3 dead Palestinians" that's not pro-Israeli in the least.
     
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    Because all your denunciations are a <Glittering jewel of colossal ignorance>...

    And just to respond to your <spurious> comments on Jews since your arrival at PF...

    I suggest in the interim because of your <credo via absurdum> that you relax, take a pill and wait for <rigor mortis> to set in.
     
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