Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Speaks to the 69th UN General Assembly

How so, you are invading, occupying, bombing one country after another, year after year, you are still in possession of stolen land, you are undoubtedly one of the biggest violators of international law.

 

Why weren't the UN soldiers on both sides?

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How so?

What stolen land?

 

But Jews were already there with their cities when the Ottomans fell, the Brits came into terms with them during both great wars, now, why do see an Arab right over a Jewish right when both been there at same time when it was time to establish a state/s ?

Did the Arabs had any right to hold immigration into Jewish cities ? did Jews had the same right to do that with Arab immigration ?

What you call a "sweeping of natives" happened after they refused 181 and started an orgenized attack against the Jews, you made it sound as if the Jews landed with machine guns firing all over and carved an terretory for themselves, that's not true, they been there since Ottoman days and if you want to go back centuries - ill go back centuries further.

 

because the UN, Israel and Egypt agreed as part of the negotiating process to have them on the Egyptian side.

the Malvinas island for starters. Glad you are not disputing your endless row of invasions, occupations, bombings

 

Because it was International, If Britain had a right to sail there so should Israel under same law. in general - apply the laws you want us to enforce or dont be supprised we deny it from those that deny us.

 

Size is just one part of the equasion and your comparison with the UK is still wrong. First size does matter and Israel's size is 1/12th of the size of the UK, Israel is tiny even compared to the British Islands which you define as already small.


Besides that, the UK is surrounded by seas which naturally protect them from attacks....Israel is surrounded by seas as well, seas of enemies overwhelmingly outnumbering Israel and fully committed to Israel's eventual annihilation.


Your comparison is totally without merit, the UK and Israel have nothing in common

Don't confuse Politicians' pandering to the electorate with policies. I am sure you are not that naive and you are not fooling anyone either....And even then they don't promise what you claim. No politician in the position of authority has ever promised to defend Israel militarily. If the US had such intentions it would have signed a mutual defense treaty with Israel decades ago.

Exactly, we project the future based on history and the current situation and your projection that the US is going to fight Israel's wars has no precedent in history or in current treaties between countries. That your best claim is some vague promises of coming to Israel's aid (which could mean anything from weapons shipments to useless denunciations and declarations) speaks for itself.

 

You call a man who routinely and smugly breaks and violates the laws and conventions he swore to uphold, mocks and betrays your country, sends spies to steal your secrets, 'honourable'?
Perhaps you need to revisit the definition of the word...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/honourable
Now tell me which of those applies to that duplicitous and mendacious bastard.

 

Fine, so stay within the borders you were given in 1947 and quit stealing other people's land, possessions and homes, destroying their means of livelihood, beating their old men and women, stoning their children, treating them like second-class citizens...
Until you do Israel will continue to be, accurately, called a belligerent pariah.

 

Are you saying that the Suez canal is/was not egyptian?

 

Ukraine was generally called 'The Ukraine' prior to the collapse of the USSR. He was correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Ukraine

 

Yes so why didnt Israel agree to have UN peacekeepers on the Israeli side?


The Falklands are stolen? From who?

As for other matters we have also invented international law.

 

How did they win "by war"? The Jews were given a country but that, quite evidently, was not enough so they proceeded to illegally steal more and more beyond their borders. That, to you, is acceptable? For once try to apply rational thinking to your answer and leave 'god' out of it.

 

Hmmm’ I am no expert in military tactics, but I enjoy chess and military strategy etc. I love to collect MilSurp stuff tanks cannon etc lol. Anyway I would beg to differ with your assessment that the size of Israel is not important! Man if we were playing a military game or the real thing would I ever wish for a foe that uses tactics like you seem to support! Even today size does make a difference! Usually the smaller the country the better for the attacking force. An invading force, and the supporting tactics of invasion which includes but not limited to softening up via bombing is standard practice! But no need to go into more detail eh?

reva

 

Rev are you aware of the great tradition of the American crank? Do you feel youre a part of that honourable movement?

 

Think of it like the UN building in NY.

Im saying the Egyptians had no right to stop Israelis sailing there and by itself a just cause for war.

 

ha ha man you almost equal me in you expert use of expletives and innuendos. However I don't agree with your assessment, well not all of it. Your accusations are far too general broad to be true. War is hell and of course any military man worth his salt will use treachery deception and all sorts of vile tactics to accomplish his mission. So yes he is honorable but what I was specifically referencing as honorable is his bull dog defense of Israel, Gods nation. He is literally the hands of God when doing the righteous work of God. Now that said I am not qualified to know every nuance every event every action every hair on his head, but God does. I can not judge him every time he chooses a path for Israel even if the path is questionable. Only in cases of murder or other violations of natural law am I qualified to make a decision based on the evidence, still a decision is not a judgement. In extreme cases sometimes I do/will judge, and for Christians that is a very dangerous endeavor. One that risks my eternal life and my relationship with God. That is why I said I would rather not involve myself in the secular dealings of Israel's military industrial and judicial system.

reva

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Truly a great post!

reva

 

Crank can mean anything from the name of a PF member, to a engine part, to an abused chemical and can cause the inflicted to create an meaningless 'word salad' (see above) instead of a good explicable reply. Remember God loves you so I don't have to~ we are all a work in progress eh?

reva

 

When the Arabs seiged Jerusalem Jewish part in 47 - that option became invalid, you really need to grasp it was an ethnic war over the entire land - not on future borders of 2 states.

 

It's Ukraine now, he posts now, he had the good sense and courtesy to admit his mistake, why are you arguing? Ukrainians cringe when they hear 'the Ukraine' as it implies a territory in Russia, not a sovereign state.

 

Yes agreed. Do you know what shuts up mouthy anti-Semitics? Every-time someone posts an derogatory 'Israel stole the poor little helpless Palestinians land while doing other 'war stuff' (war is like that) WE SHOW THE HYPOCRISY OF SUCH A REBUTTAL BY pointing out they themselves ie their own country, the one they hail from has thieved (if you want to call gaining land by war stealing) other people's land, homes and possessions while destroying their means of livelihood, beating their old men and women orphaning children and then afterwards treating them like second-class citizens..!!! How in the freaking world do they justify that? ANSWER; THEY DONT. THEY USALLY DO NOT ANSWER OR SHUT THE FREAK UP.

Sorry for the obvious anger displayed in my reply, but REALLY! This thing goes on and on and on ~ Its time to go to the range and have some rock and roll fun~ shooting spray cans is a great way to de-stress!

reva

 

I can't believe what I'm reading here; you're quite happy to dismiss as irrelevant any and all of Netanyahu's crimes because your 'god' is more important to you than the well-being and lives of those who the likes of Netanyahu are betraying and oppressing? I trust you'll apply the same 'principled' approach to lunatics like ISIS who appear to follow the same line of reasoning.
And my accusations are not "general"; in fact they are very specific:
1. Israel has betrayed America's trust by spying on you, routinely. No gods involved, and Israel was not at war with anyone at the time of Pollard's discovery.
2. Israel has stolen and sold on your military secrets to your 'enemy', China. Fact; no gods involved.
3. Israel has violated international humanitarian laws and committed war crimes-including the use of children as human shields. Documented fact; no gods involved.
4. Israel is not at war with anyone-unless you can provide us with the time and date of a formal declaration.
5. There are no gods except in fiction and ancient myth. Of course you are free to demonstrate otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard#Espionage


You really want to discuss 'honour' and Israel in the same sentence? There's an oxymoron if ever there was...

 

because as part of the negotiating agreement suitable to all parties involved, the UN peacekeepers were to be stationed on the Egyptian side of the border. Any intelligent questions?

 

Apparfently you have an anti Jew fixation.
the 1947 line was not accepted by the Arabs so what you say is irrelevant in addition to being slanderous.
Resolution 181 has also gone through the window when Arabs ONLY refused it.

The United Nations Resolution 181 of 1947 offered Partition to the Jews and Arabs that would have given the Jews 3 small indefensible enclaves west of the Jordan river, the rest to the Arabs, with Jerusalem as an international city. UN 181 completely disregarded the League of Nations and US Congress legalizing the establishment of the Palestinian Mandate, authorizing the "establishment of a Jewish Homeland in “Eretz Yisrael,” including both sides of the Jordan River. In 1921 duplicitous Churchill of England lopped off 77% of the Jewish homeland and gave it to an upstart from the Hejaz by the name of Abdullah.
Please clean your own backyard. Not only that but do some reading on the subject before defaming Israel.

 

No do you see yourself as a 'crank' in the sense in which I meant it?

This is an honourable feature of American life and culture so I wondered if you accepted yourself as one.

As for love, God loves you so I dont have to is the exact opposite of Jesus's message. Only a true American crank woud try to pretend otherwise wouldnt you say?

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Yes so why wasnt it suitable for Israelis to have the UN on their side?

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Why on earth couldnt Egyptians decide who passes on egyptian territory?

And why should they have to be killed by you for shutting the canal?

 

Because Tanks in Sinai were the cause for war, Israel won that war and got Sinai, in return to its retreat it got a slightly better peace agreement, having UN in a demilitarized zone makes all the sense in the world.

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For the same reason US troops cant storm in the UN building and arrest the late Quadaffi/ Castro / Iraqi or Syrian leaders. US laws dont apply in the middle of New York city.

Because they deny legal rights of a legal state, they were killed by Britain and France for the exact same reason, in fact for less than that.