It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording,

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  1. MisLed

    MisLed New Member

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    There was justice. In the initial arrest and investigation and gathering of the facts for the prosecutor. They determind that Zimmerman acted in reasonable fashion. Your problem is that you don't like that. You don't want law, you want public opinion to prevail. Be careful what you wish for.
     
  2. RP12

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    Again.. Read this slowly. IF Martins voice came back with the same results the testing would be deemed non valid. Simple logic.

    You have called many people that havent called for Zimmermans blood racists over the last couple days. Dont deny it.

    Personal attack noted. Thanks

    I dont have any idea what Texmaster has to do with me. My post history on this topic speaks for itself. Go back and look for any instance where i have "defended Zimmerman".

    Strawmen. I am not his parents. If i had a dead kid i wouldnt be rational either. However i am not the topic of this thread. I highly doubt his Parents post on these forums. If they did i wouldnt expect logic from them. I do from you.


    Again Justice isnt calling for blood. Justice is letting this go to trial. <------ Logic.
     
  3. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    No there was not Justice, in murder cases a jury of your peers is suppose to decide if you are innocent or guilty.
     
  4. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    In order for there to be a murder trial you have to be charged with....Murder. He hasnt yet... You know this.
     
  5. MisLed

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    you don't go to trial if there is not enough evidence to support it.

    Still. THAT is what you want. Will someone fix the trial for you? Do you even think George Zimmerman can get a fair trial at this point. Look at what democrat politician are saying nationally, publicly on this matter. You just don't know law. But that isn't what you're interested in. You're more interested in blood.
     
  6. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    Have they sampled Martin's voice and said that it was not him?

    Have I called you a racist?

    Your welcome.

    I know, most that claim that they are not defending are attempting to do one helluva job at it.

    Again I have a 15 yr old black son and if some trigger happy fool thinks he looks "suspicious" who is to a say that fool won't kill him and then come up with the same bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about some self-defense.


    Again you have to be arrested and charged with a crime to go to trial do you not.
     
  7. SigTurner

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    Such news is not surprising. As I suggested in another thread, consider the following:

    If that is Zimmerman heard screaming on the 911 tape, then he has got to be the biggest wussy in the entire world because he sounds like he's being hacked to death by a psycho axe murderer, and not in a fistfight with a 15 year-old who has punched him in the nose.

    However, the "Biggest Wussy in the World" is not likely to sign up as Neighborhood Watch captain, nor aspire to become a police officer. What is more, such a wussy is not going to get out of his vehicle and confront a subject whom he suspects to be a burglar. Ergo, I seriously doubt that is Zimmerman's voice heard screaming on the tape.

    If that is not Zimmerman's voice, then it is Martin's voice. Of course, this seems more plausible anyway, as any 15 year-old physically accosted by a rather brawny-looking adult, for no apparent reason, might be inclined to regress very quickly into a frightened child and let out the sort of screams for help heard on the tape.

    Finally, if it is the case that Zimmerman attempted to physically detain Martin until the police arrived, then his "Stand Your Ground" defense falls apart because he had no legal authority nor civil grounds to do so. In the end, he may very well be convicted of manslaughter.

    Of course, I could be wrong. It could be the case that Zimmerman only thought he was brave, or tough, or police officer material, and on this occasion found out to his sheer terror that he was not. But I doubt it.
     
  8. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    forensic voice identification is not that reliable...not like DNA or a fingerprint.
     
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    And if it goes to court the defense can find two or more that say it is not.
     
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    Did you read the article? They didnt test Martins voice because they dont have a sample to test.

    You have in the past called me a racist. Yes. You throw it out pretty fast.

    I am me. I am not most. I have not defending Zimmerman. You can say what you want it doesnt mean (*)(*)(*)(*).

    Strawmen. One death doesnt not imply its going to happen to happen to your son.

    Yes and they deemed there was not enough evidence therefor no arrest as of yet. What are you going to do if the Feds come up with the same thing?
     
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    Martin is 17 not 15. Stopped reading after that.
     
  12. Rapunzel

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    Sorry, that is not how an investigation works.
     
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    Do you have a link to support
     
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    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Its typical specially in the Martin threads. Most do not want to discuss the thread topic they want to attack posters. They better test Martins voice as well or i can guarentee it will be thrown out as evidence.
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    Exactly!!!
     
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    The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.



    I can assume that he's only about 52% sure it's the only other person it could be..... Still way below the 90% bar they establish


    50% is not very convincing people.... you don't have to even listen to the tapes to determine there's a 50% chance it was or wasn't Zimmerman screaming. lol
     
  17. Rapunzel

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    You can look it up yourself, but common sense would tell you it's not as reliable as DNA or a fingerprint.
     
  18. superbadbrutha

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    Could it be because he is DEAD.

    If the hood fits wear it, no pun intended.

    Likewise.

    Trayvon Martin is not the first teenager black kid to be labeled as "suspicious" are wrongfully murdered.

    Actually the police did, but the DA said no. I guess Zimmerman's father being a retired judge has played no part in him not being arrested.
     
  19. superbadbrutha

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    ......the correct answer would be, "no I do not".
     
  20. Rapunzel

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    I'm sure his voice is on his cell phone.
     
  21. superbadbrutha

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    You mean the one he was talking to his girlfriend on.

    The one that his father was calling that no one would answer.

    Where is that cellphone?
     
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    with his family....


    compare it to his "this is no-limit-(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).... leave a message at the beep"
     
  23. Rapunzel

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    If they can't test it, it will be thrown out of court, if it ever gets that far.
     
  24. RP12

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    So no voicemails? No videotapes of him whatsoever? I doubt that. In todays day in age someone must have a recording of his voice.

    Implying i am racist now eh? Arent you a joy to talk to. I cant help that you live off of hate man. That is your issue not mine. I come here to debate things not spread hate.

    Actually it was a State Attorney. Your issue is with him not the police. If Zimmerman's father was calling in favors for his son it will be brought up in court. Feds dont mess around.
     
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    I didn't realize you stated that forensic voice identification is not as reliable as DNA or fingerprints.

    FYI, I looked it up to responding, thus the reason I asked for a source. Folks should stop making unsupported claims, don't you agree??
     

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