It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording,

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  1. SkyStryker

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    No they won't. You know that is a pipe dream.
     
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    Let's see what the experts actually involved say, shall we? For all we know Owens is trying to increase his minority business...by whatever means necessaary.

    He is NOT the "expert" of record, is he?

    The more the Race Pimps and Leftninny Media try to "create" what they want to be true, the less reliable they become, as IF they have any credibility in this matter left in the first place....
     
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    You do not know what you are talking about. Voice ID is one of the most reliable and widely used tools for identification.
     
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    "Murder" is defined as:

    Bold emphasis added. One of the conditions specifically covered in law is that there has to be enough evidence to charge an individual with said crime and then the individual has to be charged. Zimmerman was not charged.
     
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    Owen, a court-qualified expert witness and former chief engineer for the New York Public
    Library's Rodgers and Hammerstein Archives of Recorded Sound, is an authority on biometric
    voice analysis — a computerized process comparing attributes of voices to determine whether
    they match.
     
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    You are allowed to use the definition you choose as I will use the definition I choose. You know makes this absolutely disgusting? People are so fudding hung up on minor anal aspects they completely forget......the guy is DEAD. I don't care how you want to spin it. Zimmerman shot and killed him for no reason a that is murder.
     
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    Again. Owens stressed he couldnt prove it was Martins voice..... The EXPERT says he cant prove it was Martin.. What do you not understand?
     
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    (Shhhh!!!! That's NOT IN THE SCRIPT !!!!)
     
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    Zimmerman claims self defense. You are not the Judge not the Jury. We dont need this thread to go to 500 posts along with the other 10 you spam.
     
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    No. The cops could have had audio experts run tests before concluding on their own it was Z screaming.
     
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    it's a 48% match it is his voice... that means 52% it's not.....


    so 50-50 is hardly convincing. I could have told you it was 50% chance it was (or wasn't) Zimmerman and I didn't even have to listen to the tape.
     
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    ANd another "expert" will comepltely contradict your "experts".

    The only thing that matters is COURT APPROVED evidence.

    Why are the Leftninnies SO DESPERATE TO TRY THIS CASE IN THE MEDIA?

    Because they HAVE NO CASE, that's why....and it becomes more obvious hourly...
     
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    I haven't seen enough evidence to jump on either bandwagon. I'm not calling for vigilante justice against Zimmerman, but I'm not saying he's innocent beyond all doubt either. I don't have all the facts in front of me to assess, and unlike the idiot media, I'm not going to speculate and make an ass out of myself by choosing a side one way or another until the evidence is clear and points to a victim/criminal. Right now, there is not enough for that. A teenager was killed and that is tragic and terrible. But despite all these pathetic attempts by Martin supporters to dredge up new farcical pieces of "evidence" of Zimmerman's guilt--which as some people pointed out would never make it to trial--and the same pathetic attempts by those who are for some reason convinced beyond all doubt that Zimmerman is innocent, no one has enough pieces of the puzzle to say for sure. Not enough of the case or investigation has been made public yet.
     
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    He does not have to prove it was Martin's. Proving it was not Z is sufficient evidence to prove Z lied, and he did not need to use deadly force. Why is it people like you who talk about "logic" the most are usually the slowest ones around?
     
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    Why is it that you feel the need to constantly violate the forum TOS by insulting people with blatant personal attacks, instead of referring to their arguments? That's very revealing.
     
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    but. he. can't. prove. it. was. or. wasn't. Zimmerman.....


    all he can "prove" is it's 50-50


    well no (*)(*)(*)(*) sherlock, there was only 2 people it COULD be
     
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    There is enough evidence and witness testimony to say what happened from start to finish. Add to that how many times the cops and Z defenders have proven to be dishonest, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist. Every single minute of what happened is accounted for through all of the witnesses and objective facts.

    The only mystery here is why some pretend there is not enough info to make a judgment. In fact, I bet many of the same people crying about not enough evidence are the same idiots who never demanded the same level of evidence to justify invading Iraq and Afghanistan.

    I know this case inside out so feel free to test me on any aspect.
     
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    I have shown a few times why you are wrong. Your insults change nothing. Have a good night ;)
     
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    What "he" proves, and a bus token, will get you a ride downtown.

    Your "expert" is completely IRRELEVANT to the case, and is nothing more than, yet, another, desperate attempt by the media to repair their damaged, manufactured narrative, by spoonfeeding the Leftlemmings MORE BULLCRAP, so that they'll run to forums like this, and post the "Big Expert's Findings", as they were ordered to do.

    The jig is up,and the facts will be known....
     
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    Oh. My. Goodness. You do NOT understand how voice ID works. Saying Z's voice is a 48% match does not mean there is a 48% chance it IS him screaming. The 48% proves it is not him. If you take another male of similar description who was in China when that tape was made the results could come back with a 40% match. Would you say it means there is a 40% chance it was him even knowing he was in China when the recording was made?
     
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    There are two different experts using two different techniques and both conclude it is not Zimmerman screaming. I'm sure you're frustrated the last few days revealed Z's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt but don't be foololish.
     
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    WHo says that they are "experts"? They are trying to drum up some business, it looks like to me. Who gave them any authority in the case? NO ONE.

    Are they court appointed to examine ,and analyze the audio evidence of that call?

    Didn't think so...they are nothing more than Leftninny media shills, being used to send the Leftlemmings (who QUESTION NOTHING,if it agrees with their "preferred script") out doing exactly what you're doing.

    Their OPINIONS, and a roll of toilet paper, will make it easier to wipe your a**...PERIOD. It has NO BEARING on the case....PERIOD.
     
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    You have not proven me wrong at all. You are claiming they need to prove it IS Martin screaming when that is not necessary at all. The prosecutor does not need to claim it was Trayvon screaming and I bet the prosecutor will not make that claim. The prosecutor will simply point out Z used the screaming on the tape to support his claim of self defense. The tests prove it was not his voice so it proves he lied. Again.

    The prosecution will not rely on this alone to convict Z. This is just another piece of evidence in a pile of evidence that proves Z did not act in self defense.
     
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    they both conclude they are only 50% sure it's not Zimmerman.


    (*)(*)(*)(*), I'm convinced.... can I go loot a walgreens now?
     

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