Ivanka Trump targeted

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  1. pjohns

    pjohns Well-Known Member

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    Certainly, she is both.

    But exactly which do you believe that the Daily News went after: Ivanka Trump, the member of the administration; or Ivanka Trump, the member of the Trump family?

    Try very hard to be seriously analytical here--and not merely partisan--before you answer...
     
  2. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course, it doesn't matter if she if a family member, or not.

    The disgusting thing is that they are slandering her with vile propaganda.
     
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  3. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not partisan at all. I spread my hatred for the parties equally. The "Why" isn't important.

    Why do the die hard partisans insist on attacking family members of the POTUS? (Notice how I didn't pick a party? Reason is that BOTH SIDES do this.)

    The Obama girls were called some nasty things during the Obama years and they were young; not even remotely part of the administration.

    Ivanka is fair game. Period. She can be satirized and picked on with careless abandon.
     
  4. Your Best Friend

    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    Upon checking you are correct (she didn't have one last May) but she is not formulating policy for the country the way Michelle Obama was.
     
  5. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roflol: She's actively working on implementing policy, specifically related to federal policy on family leave. That's at least as important as what the schools serve for lunch.
     
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    I think the point is the left pitched a sh!t storm of a fit whenever Michelle Obama was criticized because she wasn't fair game, in their view, although they all now feel free to attack
    Ivanka Trump because they say she is fair game.

    So I guess once more, the problem is the left's duplicitous double standards.
     
  7. Your Best Friend

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    You seem to know a lot about her. I've heard nothing about this family leave policy.


    Again, the bigger point is why is it wrong to criticize Michelle but okay to attack Ivanka?
     
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  8. PARTIZAN1

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    Let us see if you can hold a couple rational thoughts in your head at the same time. No one in the media MSM is going after Trump's family members who are not part of his administration, or are not WH staff, or are not appointed to serve some official function. For example if the MSM went after Baron they would be wrong on two counts: one he is a child, and second he is not in the administration.
     
  9. Thought Criminal

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    Waiting for the word 'whataboutism' to show up.
     
  10. Your Best Friend

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    Oh, it's already been used. I can't find one single leftist who will justify or even comment on the double standards of attacking Ivanaka
    and treating Michelle like a cow. Umm.... I mean like a sacred cow.

    Typical Stalinist tactics.
     
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  11. Curious Always

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    I wish everyone would leave all first ladies alone, but they put themselves out there, so they are fair game. Did I say otherwise? Michelle was attacked fairly regularly - - there are still people running around calling her Michael; literally claiming she is not the mother of her children.

    So, I take all these insults with a grain of salt. Each team tries to outdo the other team with every new administration. That's why it gets progressively nastier.

    My favorite? "But they did it tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo."

    Literally the cry of every partisan saying hateful, mean spirited, ugly and untrue things about the families of the other team.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Michelle was attacked fairly regularly - - there are still people running around calling her Michael"

    The media organizations that continue to spew vile propaganda against Trump, and anyone connected to him, aren't "people". They have more influence
     
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    It seems to me that if you whine about the treatment Michelle Obama got as a "School Lunch Czar" and such, that you wouldn't turn around
    and call Ivanka Trump a "ghoul" (for what, I can't say).

    I guess it's too much to hope for, wishing for some intellectual honesty from the party of Saul Alinsky.
     
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  14. Curious Always

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    What are you talking about? I never called Ivanka a ghoul, nor do I think of her as one. I think she's a highly intelligent and competent person. I also think Michelle Obama is a highly intelligent and competent person.

    I don't want people attacking either of them; in fact, I'd rather like it if everyone would stop attacking people and only attack ideas.

    You need to do a bit more research. Apparently, you are completely unaware of the way Fox, especially Hannity, went after Michelle. Also, remember when Trump's campaign chair in NY suggested that Obama return to her natural state as a male gorilla?

    C'mon... this game is old. Pretending Ivanka is the first, first-family member to be attacked viciously is rather silly.
     
  15. Thought Criminal

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    But they aren't satirizing her, or just calling her a bad name. They are painting her as someone who revels in people's deaths.
     
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    I don't think I personalized any of this towards you. If you feel all parties are fair game in political fights, unfortunately, then I agree.
    However since it was a NY daily newspaper that carried water for the left once again I hardly think it's unfair to point out the hypocrisy of the left wing, especially considering how they bristled with anger for eight years claiming criticism of the FLOTUS was out of bounds.
     
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    First of all, any American who went over there to celebrate the loathsome mistake Trump made in moving the embassy is going to be vilified in the press. She was attacked, quitely lightly btw, for celebrating a tragedy. She was attacked for representing Trump. If she had stayed at home, stayed out of Washington and away from the Trump administration and minded her own business, she would not have been called a ghoul. ;She represents her father's administration around the world: this is not the first time she has been sent to another country to represent her father's political interests. ; Get a ****ing grip on reality.
     
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  18. Curious Always

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    Yes, and now the right has eight years to bitch that Melania is out of bounds, and the left will call her names. Rinse/repeat ... we can do this all again the next time there's a D in the big chair.

    Invanka is a different animal. She's in the West Wing, with a staff, and she's representing her father in very official capacities. There are quite a lot of people who disagree with this Israel thing and they are lashing out. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    *yawn*

    Ivanka will get through this.
     
  19. Curious Always

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    Well, was she celebrating an act that will demonstrably lead to more deaths? (I am making no political statement about the rightness or wrongness of this move decision.)
     
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    No question about that. I'm just sick of the left wing's double standards.
     
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    I am as well. Exactly the way I'm sick of the right's double standards.
     
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    Nice pic of her. Just a stunning woman. Media can say whatever I guess to a point but there is a threshold legally I guess they follow. I'm sure they have a formula on click bait profits vs lawsuit losses
     
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    When Fox News calls Michelle Obama a ghoul I'll agree with you.
     
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    If she was staff, she was a target.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    She is STAFF not "family"....if she wants to be "just family" she can leave the White House....but as "staff" she is a genuine target....





    GOOD ! :)
     
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