Joe Biden Creates ‘Office of Environmental Justice’ for ‘Communities of Color’

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  1. CKW

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    Trees are planted and taken care of by homeowners or property owners. Trees not taken care of are cut down or fall down.

    I did live in a poorer but historic neighborhood where home owners had an association to try to improve. They contacted and kept in touch with our city councilman and requested improvements to roads (we had our road repaved as a result). We rented at the time and didn't have as much concern over improvements as we did paying the bills on time. They would come by our house and ask us to get the junk out of our front yard. But it was an education of how taking ownership and pride in your neighborhood was crucial to upkeep.
     
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    "EVER"?
    In your entire life?
    For All-Time? Even including times before you ever joined PF?
    Wow...
     
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    Reread what I said and then try to post. Am I saying there are no trees in black communities or am I saying there are more trees in white communities than black communities?

    In a thread about environmental racism… and people denying there is racism… I am going to use the word racism to describe how segregated our lives are. And how that segregation impacts us all.

    So that’s not even remotely true. Because the city is responsible for local infrastructure programs. Think about park maintenance or the trees along roads in certain neighborhoods. And taking a guess here but if you multiplied your story hundreds of times and looked at the data, your story would happen more often in communities of color than white neighborhoods.
     
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    Lol....folks......as you can't make this kind of crap up.
     
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    /\ /\ /\

    Proof positive that there are still some "sane" people left in our societies.
     
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    Impossible..... Lol
     
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    Local governments are not responsible for trees on private property. No one is stopping black communities from cleaning up their yards and homes and not allowing it to look like a slum. This is not a government problem nor is it racism.
     
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    Bizarre in-deed.

    And of course it's a well known FACT that there's no such thing as poor white kids, let alone poor white kids living in old buildings with lead paint.

    As soon as the lead in the paint found out that white kids would be inhabitants of the old buildings they packed all their lead filled bags and moved themselves into some other old building that only had poor black kids in it,
     
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    No but they are responsible for local lawn care because it affects property values. And if you can’t afford lawn care then you are going to face fines. Those fines are an economic incentive to live someplace else. When combined with poverty and how poverty has been racially institutionalized we end up with a kind of environmental racism.
     
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    Make up what? Local stories about kids getting lead poisoned?
     
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    So now you're saying black people shouldn't have to keep their grass cut?
    You expect local gov't to do it for them or it's racism?
     
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    A little elbow grease isn't going to kill anyone. Paint and a paint brush will go along way. Stop expecting the gov't to save you.
     
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    Serious question. Are there any upscale black neighborhoods?

    Anyway, to your question, who is responsible for planting trees, property owners or government? I know in some cases it’s both.
     
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    Trees are racist. You’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t.


    City officials commit to removing ‘racist’ trees from golf course in Palm Springs
    https://golf.com/news/city-official...trees-from-golf-course-in-palm-springs/?amp=1

    Trees just might be racist, Portland, Oregon Board of Education director worries
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...egon_board_of_education_director_worries.html
     
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    Sure you can. He just did.
     
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    The prevalence of vandalism is one factor. Many cities have trouble even planting new trees because the "youth" tear it down, knock it over, or destroy it. A small tree is not going to be able to survive that abuse. As we all know, the prevalence of vandalism can be very high in some of these communities. Even older trees will have a lot of cut marks in their trunk, which is unsightly and can lead to the tree dying. The city might have just given up and decided not to bother trying to plant anything.

    In some cities the crime rate is so high, thieves would be likely to dig up the newly planted tree, difficult as that may be for some of you to imagine. They might try planting it in their own yards or selling it on craigslist, desperate for any chance of easy money.

    It's also possible that white people, due to their culture, appreciate trees more. I know that sounds crazy, but I think it may be true. It's not only just an issue about money. (This isn't an entirely racist thing, because trashy white people are less likely to care about trees either) Even if you take a black person whom really appreciates trees, he may still end up choosing to live in the black area that doesn't have trees because he feels more comfortable there. So white people might end up being more likely to take the parts of the city with trees; or the developers might just decide it is not worth planning trees for a lower income area, because it will not increase market value enough because the people living there will not appreciate the trees. These people have other worries on their mind and don't have the luxury of thinking about trees.

    Have you ever been to some Mexican immigrant neighborhoods and seen how many houses there completely get rid of all their grass, cut down all the trees that may have been on the property, and pave it all over in concrete? It's obvious the trees and greenery are not a priority for them. Many neighbors from white culture might be horrified by this, and think it is not making the neighborhood look good.
     
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    Can you point out exactly which trees are racist? Also, how is the moon looking on this deal?
     
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    Translation: They're too lazy to keep their lawn mowed and pull up the weeds.

    You do realize there are many parts of the country where people don't hire lawn care? Almost every homeowner does it themselves. But maybe city people are too busy and have other priorities.

    I'm also aware of many horror stories about renters. The home started out with a beautiful green manicured lawn, the renters moved in with five dogs, and then 6 months later the yard was pretty much bare dirt and the dogs had dug up all the flowers and bushes. Many landlords have learned their lesson and decided not to even bother. Sometimes you can't make people have nice things if they don't care about it enough.
     
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    Just like fresh fruits and vegetables.
     
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    The great conundrum of 300 pound welfare mothers on food stamps.
     
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    Prove him wrong AJ!
     
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    Well why don't you tell us which of the two it us you are saying?
     
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    With all that money spent on drugs in some of these neighborhoods, a person would think there would be enough money to plant some trees.
     
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    What problem do you have with this?
     

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