Kicked out of class for telling professor there are only two genders

Wait. All you do is pretend you know what everyone else thinks. When their thoughts are not the same as yours.
I am not implying you want to go back 600 yrs. That is your world view you post here that implies that.

 

Its amazing. I went through 4 graduate programs and saw nothing like this.

Guess I was lucky. Academics abetting sin is it deals with technical issues that few pay attention to. Not this type of issue.

 

And this is you expressing your frustration at your inability to make any headway with your
own contentions by pretending I'm to blame somehow for your problem.

It's not anywhere remotely close to my world view. So once again you are ascribing thoughts and opinions to me that are a joke. Do you care if you are simply characterizing my views in an utterly false and dishonest way?

It's in fact you and your ideological tribe that wants to squash free speech and independent thinking when it comes to challenging the progressive dogma that academia shovels out in big steamy heaps to students. God forbid you should reject the indoctrination.

It's your gang that wants to go back hundreds of years, before the Renaissance of Enlightenment, to the true dark ages where teaching was purely a matter of instructing others in dogma, no questions asked.

The only difference is instead of teaching students about an earth-centric
solar system or flat earth you are pumping their heads full of unscientific
bunk about gender, biology and other fictions.

 

Went to the pet store looking to get a dog, the clerk asked me if I wanted a male or female. I asked what other genders do they have.

See how stupid all this gender stuff is?

 

Page 7 of this thread.

It was from a source I found that is extremely against liberal thoughts in colleges. His own words sink him.

 

So he isn't an indoctrinated robot and has views of his own that don't conform to those of a feminist transgender fan. So what?
Is thinking for yourself now a crime? Actually it is to some progressives. It literally is. Having a disagreement with an instructor is grounds for removal from class.

And I take it you are comfortable with this Big Brother authoritarian style of education.

 

You asked for his quotes, I gave them to you. This new mash of arguments are silly.

He had a history. He spoke out in class without being called on. The teacher told him to be quiet and he refused. He got kicked out. Care to argue against any of that?

 

They are more authoritarian because they increasingly tolerate only their own orthodoxy. The story of Lindsay Shepherd is a good example. In case you've never heard of it, here's an article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/1...complained-about-ta-laurier-finds_a_23311318/

An even better example is the case of Bret Weinstein.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/opinion/when-the-left-turns-on-its-own.html

 

I call it a disruptive student excusing his disruption of a class as ideology.

What if this was AGW or Creationism? Have we returned to the Dark Ages where we behead people who tell us the Earth rotates around the sun when it is obvious that the Sun rises every morning and chases an invisible chariot across the sky?

 

Rejecting delusions is not ideology.

You tell me, you stated it was disruptive for a student to reject delusions.

 

It is interesting to listen to Jordan Peterson speak on this issue.

According to him, this is just the first of MANY lawsuits against the University System in general to come before it's downfall.

He seems to think it cannot be pushed back to the middle and actual teaching, I hope he is wrong.

 

I don't doubt that this happened and that the professor is wrong. The point of education is to teach thinking and to accept all viewpoints of thought.

What is troubling, and annoying, about people posting these incidents on these message boards, is that 1) there seems to be an assumption that this kind of thing happens all the time. There are approximately 4,627 colleges and universities (2 year and 4 year) in the US. There are approximately 21 million students enrolled in higher education in the US. To point out one event like this and try to give the impression it is a common thing is ludicrous and very misleading. 2) When these things are done, it is often rightwing conservatives who make an issue of it, making it plain they feel that liberals and progressives are stifling free thinking, while the fact is that rightwing conservatives are definitely no slouches at trying to stifle free thinking and expecting the entire country to live by RW conservative values.

So, if anyone starts a thread like this, the honest thing to do is point out that this is one incident out of a vast number (21 million) students in higher education and that the Right, as well as the Left, can be at least equally accused of trying to stifle free speech and of being very unfair to people in the process.

Think before you jump to a conclusion. Drawing a conclusion without taking the needed time to reason through the argument is a logical fallacy.

Another thing to keep in mind: people often portray these kind of classes as a major part of study in higher education and that students are forced to take such classes. First, someone has said that this student needs the course to graduate. Extremely highly unlikely. He/she may need a course in this discipline to graduate, but not this particular course. There will be many options of a course in one discipline in order to earn a degree. Second, this type of course is not the backbone of college and university study. They are marginal or secondary courses that are offered, and it's highly unlikely this specific course is a required course for anyone. When I was at university, courses such as black studies, women's studies, women's literature, and such were offered as part of a larger program. You had choices. You didn't have to take women's literature as there were many literature courses to choose from.

The idea that is being promoted here that students are forced to take this class and be brainwashed with liberal/progressive propaganda is propaganda itself.

 

Science is the basis. biology is what it is, you don't get to keep an "open mind" with the facts. They don't get to be over ruled or rewritten to suit someones imaginary ideas. Some facts are closed, and wont change no matter how you feel about them.
Males are Males. They cannot become females....even if they really, really want to. Same with Females. This is a constant.

What a foolish thing to say, which shows you have no idea what you're talking about...just blurting out nonsense. "Feelings" is exactly YOUR side, not mine. I am telling you about the hard science of Biology...you are the one who thinks theres a place for an "open mind" with closed facts.

You are the one who shouldn't even be popping off, as you are the one pushing feelings.

You should stop using the word Science. You are a feeler. You don't know what science is if you think Biological facts can be "interpereted" to be something they are not.

Just go back to whatever romper room of feelings you come from and leave the intelligent people to discuss it please.

 

I saw the quotes. The argument is not new. It is a continuation and restatement of what I've said all along.
Your response is silly.

According to the OP this professor requested input from the class and when no one else spoke up he did. So he did what was requested and spoke up (albeit his views were not progressive approved pablum).Yeah, wow, what a scary bad person! Wouldn't want someone going around spewing out independent thought.

Yes. This one sided narrative of yours. Without an unbiased third party in that classroom we have one person's account of things vs. the
others'. It seems his real offense against progressive academia was effectively arguing his position.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5492201/Student-kicked-class-saying-two-genders.html

 

Yes, it's how you portray yourself in these forums.
Don't blame me for the way you present yourself.

 

This is what I mean as the way you present yourself.

Pretending to know what another thinks or believes.

 

So, to be more authoritarian today, means there were no such professors like them in the past.
Perhaps true, but I doubt it.
I bet there were authoritarian professors of the past.

 

I can't help it if you are offended or afraid of someone who can string together
rational, cogent thoughts in a literate learned way.

By the way, I note you didn't take issue with one single thing I posted.
That speaks for itself.

 

Biology is the natural science that involves the study of life and living organisms, including their physical structure, chemical composition, function, development and evolution.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology

You will not how biology deals with development and evolution also.
And we can physically know that humans and other life forms don't always conform to a normal, 100% of the time. We have beings that have both sets of sexual organs, and some that may have neither distinctive set. And that is just the physical.

Now how about the brain part of a human? If the physical can have more than just 2 options, the brain part can have at least that many as well. For all we are are cells, genes, dna, etc. Those things don't always develop in what you want to say are just A or B. There is a wide range of possibilities between A or B and there are some A & B.
That is the facts and science of it.

LOL.
I can show you hermaphodites. Which physically proves there is not always a male or always a female option. But at least a 3rd, and that is of both options in one being. And maybe a 4th, where there is neither option of A or B but some indistinct option.
That is NOT emotion. That is PURE FACT.
For you to deny such things is emotion. And as I stated, those are just the physical/biological aspects. There's still the whole human brain and other cell functions that play into the development of people. Also a FACT.

I would stop using science with you, but you seem to think you are all knowing and have science backing you up. I've shown you to be completely wrong.
And lying about what you think I believe doesn't help your cause.

 

There is a very big problem with an authoritarian progressive takeover of academia and that's not just my opinion alone.
https://nypost.com/2016/05/10/how-us-academia-became-an-authoritarian-petri-dish/

Your problem is you don't like someone putting a mirror up to your face so you have to look at what's all around you.

 

I am not offended by anyone or anything.
Another false presumption on your part. You're batting 100%.

 

You are not offended by my posts?
Really? Then why take issue with them?

You contradict your own thoughts and actions.

 

See, you are still wrong 100% of the time.
I have a problem with authoritarian of any flavor professors taking over academia.
It's why no one can have an honest debate with you.
You always make crap up.

 

Because you always make crap up.
Put people, ideas, thoughts, into some made up box you concocted.

 

Odd, you sound like you have a real problem with a student standing up to his radical instructor.