Kim Potter jury indicates potential deadlock, asks judge what happens 'if a jury cannot reach consen

Dream on...
She will be lucky to skate with serving ONLY 6 1/2 Years....

 

Dude, in my ideal world, Duante Wright would have been executed long ago. He was never going to contribute to society, he was only ever going to victimize. Twenty years old he was. Already an attempted murderer and armed robber. An absolute monster and predator of the worst sort. In any sane country, he would have been in a cage for life already..... in any GREAT country, he would have been executed for his crimes already. The fact that this POS was able to ruin the life of a person with no criminal history and turn her productive life into a cost for the state demonstrates to the world that we are not a serious country.

The single mothers of these predators are the people that HUD wants to transplant to the suburbs via billions of dollars in funds allocated in the Build Back Better plan by Biden. Progressives DESPISE middle class suburbs and their safe and happy neighborhoods and will do everything in their power to introduce murder, crime and division into them.

Look at how well the single mother HUD recipient in Waukesha turned out for that city. It resulted in that's city's biggest mass murder. Same crap happened in Port Washington, Portage, Greendale and Appleton. Places that never had crime before suddenly have violent crime and ALWAYS there is a HUD project preceding the crime wave. If you are conservative, ALWAYS realize that they hate you and they want to destroy your community by any means necessary (including using your tax dollars to move the crime to where you live).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10329753/Daunte-Wright-victims-tell-violent-past.html

 

Could he do it politically? Can you imagine the insurrection that would occur as we have seen in the streets of city after city. I've heard some very reasoned arguments from legal experts that this should not have been a criminal matter but a civil matter. Manslaughter whether first degree or second degree but especially requires some knowledge that the act in which you about to engage could cause the death of another person. The officer had no reason to believe a TASER would kill the person she fired at and she believed at the time it was a TASER.

To veteran attorneys, Potter verdict comes as a surprise, hints of change
Lawyers surprised jury convicted Potter on both counts, wonder about possible turning point in policing standards

....Defense attorney Mike Brandt said he considered Potter's act an "unconscious mistake" and thought the law's requirement that her act be conscious and purposeful was lacking. "Obviously, the jury disagreed," he said. "This is the epitome of how fickle juries are. You never know what they're going to pick up on and what it is they're going to do."

Mitchell Hamline School of Law professor Ted Sampsell-Jones agreed. "Juries are unpredictable, especially in situations like this where the law itself is quite unclear," he said. "I thought a hung jury was fairly likely, especially given how long deliberations went, but obviously the jury was able to talk it through and reach consensus."

[Yes I have heard similar sentiments from other attorney look at it strickly on the law and what occure..................the article continues]

While juries are instructed to follow the evidence, not emotions or politics, Brandt said he suspects jurors found it difficult to see "another unarmed Black man dying at the hands of police."

[I find this disturbing, this citizen is supposed to bear some burden of guilt for others perceived offenses? And perhaps we should add some context "another Black man with an outstanding warrant, violently resisting a lawful arrest, possibly reaching for a weapon as he tried to flee the scene with others in a vehicle, dying at the hands of police."............................the article continues]

...Brandon Buskey, director of the the ACLU's criminal reform project, called the verdict a "rare glimpse" of justice for a "heartbreakingly familiar" story of a young Black man killed by an "overzealous" officer at a traffic stop. "What we need is justice," he said. "And real justice means that these situations do not happen in the first place."
https://www.startribune.com/to-vete...prise-hints-of-change/600129974/?refresh=true

Well how about black criminals stop resisting arrest, violently much of the time, and then it wouldn't happen in the first place would it. And an "overzealous" officer at a traffic stop? It was an arrest of a criminal with an outstanding warrant for a gun crime. Potter thought she was using a TASER a NON-lethal use of force, how is that overzealous when the criminal is trying to escape and may be armed? What does this ACLU guy want them to have done different than what they were trying to do?

The problem now is what change will this cause. Fewer arrest by the police of violent criminals who resist arrest knowing that if they use any force against them and a death results they will go to prison?

 

Was she in the process of being arrested and violently resisting that arrest................no stop with the specious diversions.

 

Knowledge that what you are doing could cause the death of someone else. Did she believe a TASER could kill someone and fired anyway?

 

Personally if I was on the jury, I could see myself swinging either way on this one.
I don't often say that. But I really wouldn't care that much whether I voted one way or the other, due to this situation.

If I decided to vote "not guilty" it would probably be because I would fear the defendant would likely be sentenced to far more prison time than I think she should get.

And no, it's not so simple as that. The law uses words that can have vague meanings in specific types of situations, or words which were not obviously meant to apply in a specific situation like this.
This is sort of one of those situations where the actions were borderline and it is not entirely clear whether it should be seen as illegal or not.

She had valid reason to reach for her taser and shoot, and completely valid reason to be carrying both a regular gun and taser. No one disagrees about that. The question is whether mistakenly grabbing and shooting one instead of the other, in that situation, constitutes merely an accident, or rises to the level of reckless planning and action on her part.

 

Oh well...
Demz Da Breaks...

IF Potter didn't want to go to prison for several years...
...THEN, she shouid have thought about that before she KILLED Wright in Cold Blood...
Boo-freaking-hoo...

FINALLY...A Cop is actually held to account...

Hopefully, during her "time away", she will have enough time to figure out the difference between a Gun and a Taser...

Welcome To PRISON

 

Was she following instructions?

 

Are we talking what is likely to happen, or what should happen? (Two very different things, I'm afraid)

What's the point of punishing her? (I mean punishing her with more a year and a half) No one doubts it was an accident. She did nothing wrong in the time leading up to right before the careless mistake.

Are we going to forget that the victim did give her a reason to shoot a taser gun at him?

 

agree, civilly I think she is liable, maybe unintentional manslaughter at the most

this was an accident, not an intentional murder

 

That is another issue. I would probably argue about the details of that with you.

Who's the money going to go to? The victim's parents who don't deserve it?

Do you want an officer to be bankrupt for the rest of their life for one clumsy accidental mistake that was very easy to make, with there probably being many officers who have a small chance of making that mistake over the course of their careers? (and how do you put an exact price tag on death?)

 

same as a taxi driver that runs someone over by accident

 

No, not quite the same.

But I agree there is a little bit of overlap, and could be some similarities.

Imagine a pedestrian intentionally runs out in front of the taxi, unexpectedly, when it is completely against the law.

 

how about a doctor that accidentally takes out the heart vs a kidney or operates on the wrong patient

 

Still not really the best analogy.

Maybe if there's a part in a surgery that a doctor has to do in a very short period of time, without much time to think or react.

Also, normally something going wrong in a surgery is built into the price tag cost of the surgery. (That's part of the reason medical care so is so expensive, so people can be paid money if something goes wrong)

 

sure it is, the cop made a mistake that cost someone their life

I would say the doctor was not guilty of murder too, but they are liable for their mistake

 

The victim also made a mistake here, that some could argue led to his own death.

When you force someone to have to shoot a taser gun at you, there is a chance that things could go wrong.

 

true, and it cost him his life

she should not pay with 15+ years of prison, but she is liable for her mistakes too

 

So maybe 18 months of prison.

More than that would be kind of pointless and would not be actually helping anything.

We do need to recognize that sometimes police officers can make clumsy mistakes, without intending to do anything wrong.

 

I am thinking probation

same with the trucker that his brakes went out, and he did not go off the ramp like he should of

these are more civil cases imo, as they were not intentional

 

She is going to prison. (whether you and I agree with it or not)

That truck driver you refer to has already spent 2 years in prison.

 

oh, I agree, I am just talking what should happen

it just happened

https://cdllife.com/2021/truck-driv...-vehicle-pileup-that-killed-four-in-colorado/

"On Monday, December 13, 25 year old Texas resident Rogel Lazaro Aguilera-Mederos was sentenced to 110 years in prison in a Jefferson County, Colorado, court of law."

 

Thank you for (kind of, sort of) agreeing with me.

Of course what should happen can often be very different from what will happen, in many types of cases like this.

 

Probation?

NOT a Chance...

The sentencing guidelines call for 8.5 Years (Serve 6.5)...
AND, the Prosecution is askng for a HARSHER Sentence...

IF Potter got away with ONLY serving 5 years, it would be a miracle.

And, any comparison between Potter and the Trucker are horrifically misguided.

Apple and Oranges.

 

You are correct. The trucker might be more guilty than this officer.