Kim Potter jury indicates potential deadlock, asks judge what happens 'if a jury cannot reach consen

yeah, I heard the da wants to double the sentence or something, that seems extreme

 

Some accidents can’t happen. A cop shooting someone dead is high on the list.

 

they are comparable, the off ramp was the taser, the the continuing on was the gun

they both made a mistake while doing their job, and people died because of it

 

it was pretty obvious this was an accident though, this wasn't some cop putting his knee on a man's neck and slowly killing him

 

This is off topic, but in my personal opinion even that case was a little bit of an accident.

I think we need to stop seeing things in terms of entirely black and white, and recognize that there can be some spectrum between accidental and criminal liability.

That might be too complicated for some people to fit into their brains, apparently.

 

only in that maybe the cop was just being a dick and thought he was just hurting the man - but it was not an accident

 

Sorry, I'm not going down that road (in this thread). That was a very controversial and complicated story.

 

I think they might have had less trouble agreeing on a verdict if a punishment could have been agreed upon first.

(Or maybe I am wrong about that, and it would have been just the opposite)

 

For something everyone agrees was an accident.

Maybe somehow this makes you feel like you are getting justice against other cops who intentionally did something bad?

 

Bottom Line:

The Public Will NOT Accept a "Slap on the Wrist" like Probation.

And, I once again stick by my statement that Potter serving 5 Years (or less) would be a Miracle.

The least surprising result would be the Judge sticking to the sentencing guidelines.

8.5 Years (Serve 6.5 Years).

 

Some segments of the population won't.


Anyway, I see a huge amount of Anti-Gun bias, and Anti-Police bias (not to mention racial bias and pent-up racial resentment) lurking under the surface in this case.

Would the Left still be demanding this sort of retribution if an accident comparable to this (I'm not sure what exactly that would be) that did not involve a gun, did not involve a police officer, and did not involve black victim (or if the perpetrator had also been black) took place?

I'm pretty certain the answer would be no.

(In fact, demanding vengeance and punitive responsibility seems to be far more of a thing on the conservative Right than on the liberal Left)

 

Break something in a store "by accident" and you end up paying for it.

 

Again, not the best analogy here.

Do I need to go into tedious details explaining why?

 

Nah...that isn't it...
As far as "me", personally?

I really have no grudge against police (per se)...

BUT, your point is an interesting one...

And, it is TRUE That:

1) For Years (even Several Decades) Police have gotten away with Murder, Rape, Theft, Etc...
And, in most cases with Impunity.

2) Many of these cases were never even prosecuted, and Police always protected each other with the "Blue Wall of Silence".

3) And, it is True that Potter MAY (Repeat May) be sentenced to "set an example" based on the misdeeds of others.

Such "set an example" sentences are common in the justice system.

Since the sentencing guidelines call for 8.5 Years (serve 6.5), I would have no proboem with a slight downward deviation that allows her to skate away with ONLY 5 years served.
That should be more than enough time for her to figure out that a gun weighs more than a taser.

 

Don't you mean break something in a store by accident and you end up going to jail for a half-a-year?

That would be the equivalent comparison to Kim Potter's case.

 

I actually agree with you here. In fact I don’t think George Floyd was intentional at all. He was a known druggy in the area. I’m positive they likely thought he was acting. They were trying to keep him down rather than kill him. I think his health from the drugs could have played a role in how he died so easily. I know they determined it didn’t but I’m not so sure they took into account his hearts health from years of use. George Floyd is no idol.

 

Manslaughter cases are always the result of an unintentional death. Otherwise she would have been charged with murder.

 

My advice to cops:
(Cribbed from Twitter)
If I were a cop in Minnesota I would never carry a TASER again. I would never attend TASER training, I would never sign a form stating I am certified in TASER use. The prosecution utilized all of these things to convict someone who would have been justified to draw a gun instead.

The short story is certificates are used to hang you.
The shorter story is, it’s time for Minne-dishu police officers to start sending out resumes.

 

Kill somebody by accident and you can expect to face prison time.

 

So, why didn't Ted Kennedy go to jail?

Shouldn't President Biden go to jail?

https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/penta...civilians-not-isis-terrorist-in-drone-strike/

Here's a non-political example.

https://apnews.com/article/crime-accidents-kansas-wichita-8fdadae63f82213030ba80d31aec5d45

Do you need more?

 

Exactly.
5 Years served would be more than fair for Potter.

 

Obviously not every time. But if you kill somebody, even by accident, there’s going to be an investigation and potentially charges and prison time.

Which is quite different from your example of breaking something in a store and going to prison for it. That’s just ludicrous.

 

They virtually always are.

 

For how long as the criminal tries to escape by accelerating the vehicle with an officer trapped in the door?

 

And that is why Bruce Jenner got off scott-free. People don't logically think through the law.

People do go to jail for property damage. Whether they are criminally prosecuted depends on whether it was accident or a conscience decision to destroy property or do something reckless which would likely destroy property.

But you're missing the point. Should people go to jail for accidents where they at no time made a conscience decision which clearly could lead to the accident?

If yes, it leads to a lot of problems. Should we start jailing and putting to death the insane or mentally retarded? Should children go to jail for accidents?

How are you going to decide who does or does not go to jail for an accident? Political ideology? Past behavior? Skin color?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-francisco-pier-killing-suspect-found-n823351

Your post is just a knee-jerk reaction over the degree without any thought for the philosophy behind it.