The law biding citizens of california should give up their high cap mags, when the criminals give up theirs.
We need a photo of Leland Yee next to this movement. Just so they know who really controls the gun in this country, the people trying to outlaw them. How many fully automatic assault rifles did he illegally smuggle to china? Yeah..
Jerry, is just following his counter part Andrew Coumo in New York by pushing a law similar to the SAFE Act. It only opens the honest person to attack and more scrutiny while giving the criminal access to those things denied to the honest. The residents of NY State are rebelling and now seeking to repeal the SAFE Act in totality. http://www.syracuse.com/state/index...o_ny_safe_act_regarding_ammunition_sales.html
If you had a magic box with four buttons... A twilight zone type of box, it is magic, it doesn't have or require a logical, functional explanation, it just does something magical, to demonstrate a point... Button A] All People, Good, Bad, or just Ugly, have any Gun they might own, just disappear, and be replaced by a chocolate bar. Button B] All People, Good, Bad, or just Ugly, are given a Gun with plenty of ammo, whether they currently own one or not. Button C] All People, Good, Bad, or just Ugly, are stripped of every kind of weapon or tool they might use as a weapon, ... and given chocolate bars. Button D] All People, Good, Bad, or just Ugly, who currently own a Gun, have it removed, and replaced with Stiletto Knife and a Machete. Now, given those choices, and assuming you are a Good Person of civil and law abiding intent, and the fact that you MUST press one of the buttons by tomorrow morning.... Which would be the BEST button to pick, and which the worst? -
Your logic is skewed because even where knives are regulated in homes like Japan, or China murders and killings are not stopped. What next do you regulate the size of clubs, sticks, stones and lengths of rope?
You assume way too much.... I'd pick button B. It is the only sane choice, and one that would eliminate almost all crime overnight. -
I'm not going to convince you otherwise, since you've already invested way too many years in creating an alternate reality of those events.
hey I don't know much about LA crime stats... do you happen to have data showing crimes involving guns and what their magazine capacity was? just wondering if 99% of crimes are with a gun using a 10 round capacity, so in essence this law wouldn't stop 99% of the crimes? just wondering because often some folks have more localized data than my google skills allow me to find... I'm assuming less than 1% of guns have capacities greater than 10 so this law does nothing? another "feel good" law that does nothing? I mean lets be honest we already know the criminals aren't following this law, they're already felons in possession of firearms already so this means nothing to them... but I am really curious on gun crime data to see what percentage of guns used had >10 capacities... P.S. wait I'm confused now... seems california back in 2013 passed a law banning any guns with greater than 10 rounds... so all guns sold in california today already can't have more than 10 rounds... so this law really isn't going to do anything at all... except for the grandfathered in clips? which I still doubt many people have clips any larger to begin with... now I really want to find gun crimes and the clip size used in them... because now I really bet this has a 1% impact... http://smartgunlaws.org/large-capacity-ammunition-magazines-policy-summary/
There's always the new York reload. [video=youtube;QEiD0fL-ebI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEiD0fL-ebI[/video]
Actually you skipped the main cause. Rodney King who was recklessly not an innocent lamb, was speeding to avoid arrest, finally met up with the redneck law enforcement who were also not innocent lambs, ganged up on him and almost beat him to within an inch of his life.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb1WywIpUtY And, as a result, they became the real culprits of the riots who decided to exercise their redneck law enforcement hate on Rodney King. If that hadn't happened, the riots would have never happened, and the police wouldn't have been the first to blame, for actually causing the riots.
Like I've said so many times before on this forum, mentally unstable people should not have guns at all, especially with any kind of magazine clip. Thanks to your youtube video, it is abundantly clear that an unsuspecting crowd has no chance at fighting back, even if they were armed with the same capability. That is why that capability should be outlawed. Again, this is just common sense.
Dude, give me a break okay. If your argument weren't so shallow minded, it would be funny. Trying to be dense with this argument isn't impressing anyone but you. Lets do this one more time. Many elderly and "DISABLED" people aren't strong enough to use a gun, "PERIOD". Which puts them at an enormous disadvantage with a person who can, and with a weapon with a high capacity magazine. If I were to explain that fact to any common idiot out there, he should at least be able to understand that reality.
Even an out right ban on all fire arms will not prevent people from killing each other. The deadliest school attack in US history was done with explosives. The Bath School disaster was a series of violent attacks perpetrated by Andrew Kehoe on May 18, 1927, in Bath Township, Michigan, that killed 38 elementary school children and six adults and injured at least 58 other people. LINK
then I suggest you be clear as most are not mind-readers. How would said elderly fare against a chainsaw, a bow and arrow, a large knife, an axe, a baseball bat......do you get the point? You aren't fooling anyone with the nonsense. You don't like guns and believe that they must be taken from those who have them. Do you realize that more people die each year from accidental ingestion of poison than homicide by firearms? If you are looking to protect people, then why not focus on the top 5 causes of death; guns aren't on that list. Careful, your leftist and controlling agenda is showing
umm, no an unarmed people have ZERO chance of fighting back. You cannot even guess what would occur if all of a sudden a few rounds started landing near or into a homocidal shooter. You've no concept as to how it changes the entire event.
And? What does that have to do with people using guns to kill other people? And without proper training and licensing, most people are not allowed to handle explosives. And I'll bet none of them have their own belts, similar to a magazine clip, to hold multiple explosives at one time either.
At the rate from which that guy was firing those three guns, only a fool would think there was time to mount a defense, before he would have already killed most, if not all. No, that you tube video is all the proof we need that high capacity magazines should be totally outlawed.
When you folks get boxed in with your losing gun argument, you find an alternate route. This time it's fertilizer.
I guess you've never heard of the Oklahoma City bombing. And you haven't boxed me in at all. I'm just illustrating there are things out there a lot more deadly that are as easy or easier to get than guns.
No, because the topic of this thread concerns guns and high capacity magazines. And as much as you would like to create a logical argument for this, you can't. The elderly or disabled in a nursing home for example, would not stand a chance against someone with a high capacity magazine and a gun, other than to dial 911. If a person walked into a movie theater to kill with a bow and arrow, or a gun with a high capacity magazine, which of those weapons would kill more with the shortest amount of time? Nope, wrong again. I personally have lots of guns, and none of them have high capacity magazines. Changing the subject to poisons only reinforces my previous statement of just ho diluted your argument is. You know boss, the Leftist argument is getting to be kind of lame. Once again, the Leftist attack, which is nothing more than a surrender to personal attack, has nothing to do with the argument itself. And it is the best indicator that your own argument is sitting right in its own excrement.
Facepalm.....your master grand wizard plan to keep high capacity magazines from criminals is....this is the best part......to outlaw them? Sorry thats not a plan. Thats another gun grab. Let me rephrase..tell us what your realistic plan is to keep criminals from using outlawed high capacity magazines.
But your argument about bombs is ridiculous, as it applies to guns. "BECAUSE IT DOESN'T" Totally different scenario, totally different laws! Owning explosives for recreational use is illegal. Owning guns with high capacity magazines for recreational use, is not.