LA Bans Possession of Standard Capacity Magazines

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  1. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    Let me re-phrase for you. Begin the process of outlawing the manufacture and selling high capacity magazines, and believe me, there will be a reduction in the sale and manufacture of high capacity magazines.
     
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    Yes FOR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS! I am asking you how you plan on keeping criminals from using them...would you even agree to mandatory life in prison for any repeat offending criminal caught with a high capacity magazine?
     
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    Not unrelated, they both can be used to kill people and with explosives it's easier to get a high body count. I can make a bomb with the stuff under my kitchen sink and it's a lot harder to trace. You claim banning high capacity magazines will save lives but you have offered zero evidence. How many people are killed each year by a gun using a high capacity magazine? And of those killed by them how many were killed by the 11th or higher bullet? I mean if limiting the number of bullets saves lives there must be an epidemic of people getting killed by someone shooting more than 10 shots. Provide the evidence that this will actually save lives otherwise it's another feel good law for sheeple.
     
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    How do you limit the "Capacity" of a Machete?

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    What a pointless, do nothing law that needlessly restricts the constitutional right of law abiding citizens. Another shining jewel for the anti-gunners. Republicans, take heed; you'll continue to see this as your party gets voted out because rather than take a libertarian platform where the rights of all are respected, the individual is respected, and the government is run with a more reasonable fiscal plan, you all are alienating gays, minorities, non-Christians, definitely Mexicans, and pretty much anyone who knows any of these people. Stop with the dividing and hate filled social agenda or we all lose. Hell in my state it is, as of this year and passed by the governor under an emergency order (such bull(*)(*)(*)(*)) requires that I pass a background check at a gun store if I want to borrow my friends gun for the day. That's now insane the anti-gunners are getting, and they're able to pass this BS since the Republicans are getting voted out because no one wants some hateful ******** running their government.

    Ug, if only this wouldn't fall on intentionally deaf ears.
     
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    Before the invention of cartridge ammunition, and before the invention of clip fed cartridges... how did outlaws, or lawmen, have high shot capacity?

    This is a picture of the gun which "Won" the west, the percussion cap colt revolver, with just six shots. It took a long time to load, as each chamber had to be individually loaded much the same way a single shot musket was loaded.

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    So, with such a slow loading weapon, how did users, good or bad, or just ugly, get more shots?

    Answer:

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    So, you pass this stupid law, and someone intent of mass carnage, will simply carry two or more guns...

    Idiot gun banners never think things through! Never study History! Never have public safety as their real goal!

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    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pretty much. 'Ol Edward Teach used the same method to get around the limitation of single shot black powder pistols.

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    When you stop the manufacture of those magazine parts, and make it illegal to use them, it will have an impact. The problem you folks have, is you never wanted to try that to begin with because it's all about the paranoia over the guns. Therefore, the conclusion is, it won't work. This selfish, self centered attitude, has done way more harm than good.

    As for mandatory life sentences for high capacity magazines, what do you think; http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/high-capacity-magazines-mass-shootings? It's done way more harm than good already in this country.
     
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    How many mass killings from one person have you come across with machetes, as compared to guns? Never mind the fact, you already weakened your own argument by changing the subject to machetes.
     
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    Thanks capn strawman. So you have no plan whatsoever to keep criminals from using them and cant even muster the fortitude to punish the criminals violating the very laws you are forcing on law abiding citizens. Thuuuuaatts just dandy. I think we should divide the nation...its about time you guys went on your merry way. Youd last about as long as the guy who paid all of his employees 70k a year but it would be so much fun to see how you handled the onslaught of criminals. Dont you think that would be a great social experiment to see who is correct?
     
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    Statistics of over half of the mass shootings that occurred in this country were with high capacity magazines. If those mass shootings hadn't occurred using high capacity magazines, many of those people would be alive today; http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/high-capacity-magazines-mass-shootings
     
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    The social experiment has already been tested in many other developed countries and it works. We on the other hand, as usual, are always behind the times because of our selfish, self satisfying ways, flushing common sense down the toilet; http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/opinion/the-gun-challenge-strict-laws-work.html?_r=0
     
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    Hundreds of Thousands!

    http://www.cairn-int.info/article-E_POPU_504_0401--the-death-toll-of-the-rwandan-genocide-a.htm
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...venge-attacks-Christian-villages-Nigeria.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Corona

    Blades have been used to kill more people over human history than guns or bombs.

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    So why havent you moved there? And speaking of common sense...you want to restrict law abiding citizens but cant muster the fortitude to punish criminals for the very thing you are touting. That is completely void of any common sense. Thats why you cant answer how exactly you plan on keeping criminals from using them against law abiding citizens. Again more common sense would be you moving to a country that operates the way you want. Why dont you and the rest of the people who think we are behind...simply move? People like me will be better off and far happier without people like you here and youll be happy in your favorite other country far away from us doing what ISIS tells you to do.
     
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    It's easy to speculate some of those killed in mass shooting may still be alive today if the shooter had a different magazine but that's all it is speculation. Statistically what percent of gun deaths involve high capacity magazines? Mass shootings only account for a very small percentage of gun deaths. More people die each year from blunt force objects. Should we ban those as well?
     
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    It wasn't until the lever action rifle holding more than six shots came along, that the west was won. It was that high capacity rifle that allowed a shooter to keep shooting as his foe was reloading.
     
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    Jeremiah Johnson disagrees with you...

    He says it was the 50 Calajoule single reflex plasma flux valve that made geo-magnetic Dark-Anti-Flux recharging of your sabre possible!

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    ( Admit it! You've been out Nerded!)
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    I own an AR15 and around 10 or so 30-round magazines. Unless the country goes Mad Max or China invades, I don't expect I'll ever point it at another human. I like the larger magazines because it reduces the reloading time when I go to the range. I have a handgun for an intruder, which I frequently also carry concealed. For the record, I have a permit.
     
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    Then perhaps you would care what possible reason there is for allowing access to such by police officers, if their sole reason for existence is to allow for one person to have the ability to start a small war if they choose to do so.

    You would do well to remember that the term "high-capacity magazine" also includes any magazine capable of holding no more than eleven rounds of ammunition.

    In your crusade for your beliefs, do you possess sufficient conviction to essentially ruin the life of someone else over a matter that comes down to no more than a single round of ammunition?
     
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    Pistol rounds do not possess the same performance capabilities at shotgun rounds. Therefore more rounds may be necessary to achieve the desired results.

    Explain why absolutely no one possesses any legitimate need for possession of a magazine capable of holding more than ten rounds of ammunition. If you are going to support this argument, then you should be prepared to defend it when its reason is challenged.
     
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    Yes it will have an impact and a very negative one.

    It is strictly a means of controlling people through tyranny.
     
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    Target shooting hunting and fighting a war started by others.

    Your beloved government has started more wars than any private citizens.

    Any ordinary person who can shoot a gun can use a high capacity mag.

    All of your arguments fail any and all tests of logic.

    If is not criminal to sell such mags
     
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    That depends on the size of your ballistics. The 44, the 444 or the 454 should do the trick. They are very comparable to a shotgun slug.

    I already did.
     
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    No you did not.

    So try and explain
     

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