Left Opens War On All Religious Schools By Targeting Where Karen Pence Works

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  1. Derideo_Te

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    The "hard left"? :eek:

    Too bad you can't actually provide any substance for that "position" of yours!
     
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    Only extremist rightwingers claim that children made the "choice" to be born to impoverished parents.

    The opportunities for anyone born into poverty to work their way out of it are few and far between and it is disingenuous to blame those in poverty for making it "their choice". What is even worse is that a great many of those in poverty work 2 and 3 jobs just make ends meet and still are unable to improve their situation in spite of their efforts. The system where the minimum wage is consistently being ERODED and the GOP OBSTRUCTS any and all attempts to raise it means that they are stuck in a cycle that cannot be broken by their own efforts.
     
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    So what you are saying are that bigotry and discrimination are "christian values"? :eek:
     
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    Yup

    That is what the poster that you responded to is saying.
     
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    Many of those in poverty work NO jobs and don't even look for a job. Look at what California's liberal policies have done to that once great state. It's a hell hole of debt, poverty, disease, welfare, and homelessness. Liberal policies encourage laziness through handouts. And it "Cannot be broken by their own efforts"? Good grief, you're a left wing nut. Many Asian immigrants come to this country with not much more than the shirt on their back and become highly successful through hard work and perseverance. I guess they missed your memo that they had no hope in life and should sit on their lazy asses like much of your political base does and mooch the system.

    And affirmative action has collapsed because any system that ALLOWS someone with weaker credentials to get a position over someone with stronger credentials is doomed to failure simply because of race is the epitome of racism.
     
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  6. Derideo_Te

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    Puerile ad hom PR Rule Violation ignored for DEROGATORY reasons.

    Your abject FAILURE to substantiate your rightwing DISINFORMATION is obviously because it is a complete and utter FALLACY!

    https://money.cnn.com/2017/12/13/news/economy/poor-work-requirements/index.html

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    Only the subject matter challenged would call the disabled, caregivers, students, retirees and those seeking employment "lazy".

    My position is substantiated by the FACTS from credible sources!

    Too bad you can't do the same!
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    When the school makes up hypothetical homosexual children and then uses them as psychic punching bags that is instilling homophobia in children and a legitimate thing for an article to expose.
     
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    A) The story wasn't putatively about the school but about the 2nd lady's voluntarism.
    B) The school is a Christian school. Opposition to homosexuality pretty much comes with the territory. Writing a hit piece about the school because it opposes homosexuality isn't justified. Writing a hit piece on the 2nd lady for volunteering at a Christian school because it opposes homosexuality is even less justified.
    C) I have expounded on this topic at length, but "homophobia" is not a word. It's what you get when someone who knows nothing about the meanings of Greek and Latin roots tries to make a word. "Homo" in its stand-alone sense means "man". But obviously homophobia doesn't mean "fear of men", that would be androphobia. "Homo" in its combining sense means "the same". But obviously homophobia doesn't mean "fear of the same", either, since that would mean fear of heterosexuals. There is a word for "fear of the other", that's xenophobia. But that's obviously not what is meant, either. What is meant by this fictitious word is a psychological fear of homosexuals, but 1) no one fears homosexuals, and 2) there's no such condition. So this fictitious word "homophobia" is nothing more than a blatant attempt at trying to make opposition to homosexual "rights" seem like a psychological condition instead of a legitimate political viewpoint. So **** off with your "homophobia."
     
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    It's a Christian school. Why are you not totally fine with that?
     
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    Because discrimination is un-American and no one who upholds the Constitutional rights of others should tolerate that kind of odious bigotry against their fellow citizens.
     
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    A. The school let the lady volunteer and do her dirty work, it's on them
    B. It goes with SOME Christianity, but not all of it. I can cite dozens of gay Christian orgs. Unless the school advertises itself as "Hating homosexuals just like Jesus did" they're misleading people
    C. Now I've seen it all, a lexicographical Nazi **** off yourself this is ENGLISH not German, we derive our words in any way we please, thank you. You can't tell that by our spelling?
     
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    He was referring to the parents' choices to have children out of wedlock, not the children's choices. Poverty is overwhelmingly a problem of single mothers and is almost but not quite nonexistent among stable two parent households. No-fault divorce is creating a new bloc of poor mothers, those men who ditched their first family and remarried and started a second family. But something like 70% of all divorces are initiated by women, so we can't blame men for most of the new bloc of poor divorced mothers, either.

    The minimum wage is the last remaining legal vestige of the thoroughly disproven and discredited Keynesian economics, in which Keynes redefined the economy in terms of the lowest paid worker, and thereby created the fiction that raising that number would improve the economy. It doesn't. It mostly puts poor people out of work, since their value to business is less than the minimum wage. There's an interesting statistic dating back to before the first minimum wage was put into place showing that black teen unemployment in the 1920s was lower than white teen unemployment. After the minimum wage went into effect, black teen unemployment hit 50% and has never gone below that point again, and usually hovers somewhere between 60-70%. If you really cared about the poor, you'd push to eliminate the minimum wage entirely. It does nothing for the overall economy, that's been proven time and time again, and it only hurts poor people.

    As someone who does uphold the Constitutional rights of others to practice their religion as protected by the 1st Amendment, I don't tolerate the kind of odious bigotry you're displaying towards Christians.
     
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    Jesus would not recognize the heartless extremist rightwing christianity that denigrates gays and spurns the less fortunate by blaming them for being the victims of deregulated capitalist greed.

    Jesus threw people like that out of his temple while reaching out the less fortunate and reviled.

    What passes for "christianity" amongst the BLOTUS supporters is the antithesis of everything that Jesus advocated.
     
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    the school specifically states that non-Christians may not work there. Nor can homosexuals or anyone who lives with a homosexual.

    Christian Love, on display.
     
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    He's a smarmy narcissist. And I don't care for his politics. Waaaay too illiberal for my tastes, though I'd back him on the Religion of Peace.
     
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    Wow .. seriously? You think people actually want to go around telling others that they're virtually Communists, for fun?
     
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    Only extreme white supremacists think that poverty isn't a result of choices. The opportunity to leave poverty behind is the same for all able bodied people, in the democratic first world.

    If you're 'stuck', you're stuck because you want to be. You don't like the alternative .. which means long term self-sacrifice and iron self-discipline. There are plenty of people who know they'll survive without ever having to do the hard work of breaking the cycle of poverty, and so that's what they choose. That they then complain about it is entirely irrelevant. A three year old will beg for ice cream for every meal, but then complain about it when it happens.
     
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    Brilliant response, thank you!
     
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    Gee and the DNC doesn't allow any Republicans to work there. How inclusive of them.

    News flash, it is a school. People pay big money to send their kids to Christian schools so they get a Christian upbringing and are not exposed to the slime they find in the public schools.
     
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    Total nonsense. Doing these three things will practically guarantee you will escape poverty. None of them are a mystery or difficult.

    Enter adulthood with three major responsibilities: at least finish high school, get a full-time job and wait until age 21 to get married and have children.
     
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    I read it. Are you still standing by your claim that the former student said that the school kicked out gay kids?
     
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    Wait, are you Republican, Democrat, or other?
     
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    Let's not forget Bob Jones University, which until 1971 didn't admit people of color and until 2000 expressly forbid inter-racial dating among it's students. At least they've seen the light and have moved into the 21st century. Perhaps one day Immanuel Christian School will like-wise see the light as well and move past their hate of those who are different then they are.
     
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    Fake News Left Wing Slander.

    Immanuel Christian School does NOT forbid inter-racial dating or anyone on account of race. If you want to be a sexually active youth, gay or straight, this school is not for you.

    So why does this make them the focus of your narrow-minded hate and bigotry?
     
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