Man ‘Tied Up & Tortured’ on Facebook Live in Chicago

Yeah, I'm sorry I don't have some kind of encyclopedic visual knowledge of what Roof looks like.

Partisan? Gosh, I haven't mentioned politics once in this thread. Now you're seeing stuff that isn't even there. I guess...

...you're projecting. And oh dear, you're throwing insults like a teenager. Oh, whatever shall I do?

 

Why would you? Hell, his face has only been all over the frakkin' news every single day for the past two months...

 

Well, so much for what little credibility you actually had.

 

Here's more:

http://www.salon.com/2017/01/07/do-...e-violence-faced-by-people-with-disabilities/
SATURDAY, JAN 7, 2017 03:30 PM MST
Don’t let racists fool you: The Chicago kidnapping isn’t about Black Lives Matter. It’s about the violence faced by people with disabilities
Mindless violence and hideous cruelty against the disabled has to be condemned by all Americans whenever it occurs
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TOPICS: BLACK LIVES MATTER, BRITTANY COVINGTON, CHICAGO, ERIC GARNER, FACEBOOK, JORDAN HILL, RUDERMAN FAMILY FOUNDATION, TANISHIA COVINGTON, TESFAYE COOPER, WASHINGTON COALITION OF SEXUAL ASSAULT PROGRAMS, NEWS

Don’t let racists fool you: The Chicago kidnapping isn’t about Black Lives Matter. It’s about the violence faced by people with disabilities
(Credit: Mila May via Shutterstock/Salon)
A brutal crime in Chicago shocked the nation earlier this week after four teenagers kidnapped an 18-year-old student and tormented him over Facebook Live — punching him, kicking him, and tearing off his clothing while he screamed for help. What made the crime a front page story, however, isn’t that it was live-streamed over social media: The perpetrators — Jordan Hill, Tesfaye Cooper, Brittany Covington, and Tanishia Covington — invoked the name of the president-elect during the attack. “F**k Trump!” the assailants yelled. “F**k white people!”

Since video of the attack went viral, racists have used the footage as evidence of the scourge of black-on-white crime, a phenomenon white nationalist leaders say the media ignored.

Richard Spencer, an alt-right leader infamously referred to as the “dapper white nationalist” in a Mother Jones story published earlier this year, used the incident as a marketing tool in a series of tweets published Wednesday. “This isn’t even the first instance of terrorism against whites by anti-Trump #blacklivesmatter supporters in Chicago,” Spencer wrote, adding later in the day:

“Remember the #BLMKidnapping every time some journalist lies about my white advocacy organization and calls it a hate group.”

In the latter tweet, Spencer refers to a hashtag that trended after the attack, one that attempted to pin the violence on Black Lives Matter, the national network of advocates for racial equality. Deray McKesson, a Baltimore-based activist who has become one of the faces of the BLM movement, tweeted: “It goes without saying that the actions being branded by the far-right as the ‘BLM Kidnapping’ have nothing to do w/ the movement.”

VideoPress Conference On Hate Crime Charges for Group Who Allegedly Beat Disabled Teen on Facebook Live
While white nationalists use the incident to stoke fears of black people targeting innocent whites, the truth is that hate crimes against white people are relatively rare. 2012 statistics from the Federal Bureau of Investigations show that of the 3,467 hate crimes reported to police that year, 66.2 percent were motivated by racial animus against black people. This is despite the fact that African-Americans make up just 13.3 percent of the U.S. population, according to 2015 statistics from the Census Bureau. Meanwhile, just 22 percent of bias attacks were anti-white.

Instead, this incident is a reminder of the violence that people with disabilities experience in everyday life. The young student, whose name has not been published in the press to protect the privacy of his family, has an intellectual disability, which means that his brain processes information differently than the rest of ours. He was a classmate of Jordan Hill, who invited him over for a “slumber party.”

People with disabilities aren’t often the targets of hate crimes. FBI data shows that just over one percent of people who suffer a bias attack have a mental or physical impairment. Instead this population, which totals over 63 million Americans, is more likely to be the victim of other types of crimes — including rape.

According to the Washington Coalition of Sexual Assault Programs, 80 percent of women with a disability report being assaulted by a friend, family member, or a stranger. That also includes 30 percent of disabled men. Many of these crimes take place in their youth. The WCSAP claims that male adolescents with a hearing impairment are five times more likely than their peers to be a rape survivor. Young girls who are deaf or otherwise hard of hearing are twice as likely to be sexually assaulted as girls who aren’t hearing impaired.

When dealing with police, those with disabilities often face a lot of the same struggles that non-white people do, subject to extraordinary, disproportionate harm. A 2016 report from the Ruderman Family Foundation showed that differently abled persons make up between a third to one half of all people killed by law enforcement every year.

Robert Ethan Saylor, a 26-year-old with Down syndrome, was called “Ethan” by his family. He went to see the Kathryn Bigelow film “Zero Dark Thirty,” which details the hunt and capture of Osama Bin Laden, with his caretaker on Jan. 12, 2013. After seeing the movie, Saylor decided he wanted to watch it again and went back into the theater, despite the fact that he hadn’t purchased a ticket. Although his caretaker warned police, who were called to the scene to remove him from the theater, that Saylor would “freak out” if touched, he was dragged out of the facility as he yelled for help.

“Mommy!” the young man screamed. “It hurt! Call my mom.”

Saylor, whose mother was just five minutes away from the scene of the accident, would die of asphyxiation in the struggle with police. As the young man was thrown to the floor and handcuffed, the cartilage in his throat fractured. His siblings remember Saylor as someone who looked up to law enforcement officials as role models, collecting cop badges and other police paraphernalia.

Saylor’s case, which might remind you of Eric Garner, the man suffocated by police officers as he protested that he couldn’t breathe, is one of many.

There’s Antonio Love, a deaf man who was pepper sprayed and tasered by police in the bathroom of a Dollar General in 2009 because he couldn’t hear the command by police to come of the facility. Ernest Griglen, who is diabetic, was brutally beaten by police in 2008 who thought he was driving drunk. At the time of his beating, Griglen was experiencing insulin shock. Six years later, Natasha McKenna, who was schizophrenic, was stripped naked and tasered four times in her cell because she wouldn’t come out of her cell. As she died, she protested, “You promised you wouldn’t kill me.”
In fact, many of the cases of police brutality you’ve heard about in the media intersect with disability in crucial ways. Sandra Bland, who was removed from her vehicle and tossed to the ground following a routine traffic stop in 2015, had a history of depression. The 28-year-old was later found hanged in her jail cell. Laquan McDonald, a Chicago teen whose death made national headlines after being gunned down by a white cop in 2014, had a learning disability, as well as post-traumatic stress disorder.

These aspects of police violence are rarely reported on, but these details are crucial and often make the difference between life and death. Garner, a Staten Island man who was selling cigarettes on the street when he was assaulted by police, was asthmatic.

As The Daily Beast’s Elizabeth Heideman reports, police do receive training on how to respond to people with disabilities, but that education is limited. Law enforcement officials are instructed to issue simple, clear commands in order to prevent difficult situations from escalating further, like “Get on the ground!” and “Drop that!” But those instructions wouldn’t have helped Love, because he wouldn’t have been able to understand them. This training needs to be expanded in a way that recognizes the unique challenges the community faces and how to handle them.

This attack isn’t about what people like Spencer want you to believe it is. White supremacists hope to use this incident to stoke the flames of racial hate, but it’s about a society that lacks compassion for people with disabilities and a nation that still doesn’t know how to address it. Too many differently abled people are assaulted, hurt, and killed every year, and their stories rarely become trending topics. It’s time to start telling them.

 

Eh, it can be both, and likely was in this instance. Although those four losers definitely picked what was an easy mark for them, I rather doubt they would have chosen a mentally disabled Black person for their victim.

 

The Left continues circling the wagons around BLM:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...e-assault-case-blm-movement-article-1.2935825

KING: Stop using the attack on a mentally challenged white man in Chicago to promote a racist agenda against Black Lives Matter
SHAUN KING
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Thursday, January 5, 2017, 10:33 AM
In Chicago, at least four young black men and women did something truly awful. On a damn Facebook Live video made public Wednesday, they allegedly kidnapped a mentally challenged white man, beat him, humiliated him, cut his hair, and yelled “f--k Donald Trump” and “f--k white people” while filming it for the world to see.

I just arrived back in America this morning after a week away and just watched the video moments ago. It’s awful. I have deep empathy for the victim. Twenty years ago, a racist mob of young white men beat me so badly that I missed 18 months of high school recovering from three spinal surgeries and fractures to my face and ribs.

I hate violence. Nearly 100 people are killed with guns per day in this country. Every 98 seconds someone is sexually assaulted in this country. Hate crimes are on the rise from coast to coast. Our incoming President of the United States admitted that he sexually assaults women. Women all over the country came forward to allegedly confirm it. His first wife, in a sworn deposition, said that he raped and brutally assaulted her. Ivana Trump later said she didn’t want the allegation to be considered in a literal or criminal sense.

This country is sick.

4 nabbed for torturing mentally disabled hostage on Facebook Live
However, I see thousands of white folk online asking me why I’m not speaking out about it.

Beyond the fact that I literally just got back in the country a few hours ago with my wife and five kids, my answer is simple. As soon as I clicked on the first official story about the incident, I saw that four people had already been arrested for it. If more people were involved, whether it was two more black folk or 20, guess what, they’ll be charged and arrested, and convicted, and sentenced, and jailed for it as well. We will see their mugshots and videos of them walking into court with jail clothes any minute now. That’s how justice works in America.

This country does not need me to speak out on crimes committed by black folk because nobody in this country is held more responsible for the crimes they commit, and even the crimes they don’t commit, than black folk in America. Right now, young black men in America are incarcerated at a rate higher than South Africans were at the height of Apartheid.

I speak out on injustice. What happened to this man in Chicago was terrible. It was criminal. I hate it, but guess what — justice was swift. It was miraculously swift.

KING: How white privilege allows white men to assault black men
Justice is always swift and easy when black folk mess up, but you know who’s not in jail right now? George Zimmerman.

You know who’s not in jail right now? The officers who fired 41 shots at and killed Amadou Diallo on the doorstep of his Bronx home.

You know who’s not in jail right now? The officers who killed Eric Garner and Rekia Boyd.

Chicago Police are investigating a since deleted Facebook Live video that shows a young white male being held hostage and tortured. (FACEBOOK LIVE VIA TWITTER)
You know who’s not in jail? The men who murdered Emmett Till.

KING: Slammed N.C. girl shows how some cops feel about black kids
Neither are the two white men who recently lured a mentally challenged black student into a locker room and rammed a hanger up his rectum.

We march for them. We protest for them. I write about them and Facebook and tweet about them — because justice has not been served in those cases. It almost never is.


https://epeak.in/2017/01/08/jan-8-only-some-hate-crimes-matter/

Only some hate crimes matter?

Indianapolis: I am ultra-liberal, but after reading Shaun King’s article it seems to me he is trying his hardest to justify what these teens did (“Don’t use Chicago’s white assault case against Black Lives Matter movement,” Jan. 5). He repeatedly says basically, “Ya, but look what these white people did in Idaho and Emmitt Till, etc.” King’s not doing his race any favors by trying to justify what these people did. Furthermore, no favor is being done to the BLM movement (which is racist to begin with). Police mistreatment goes to all races, believe me. Why doesn’t King show real numbers on police shootings which show more whites than blacks killed by police by large margins. This ridiculous article does nothing for the fight against racism. It just tells black teens that it’s fine to kidnap, torture and shame a disabled kid because whites deserve it, because look at what they have done. Chris Walker


Jacksonville, Fla.: The injustice is the inconsistent justice. By now, if this were a black victim, the Justice Department would have announced its intent to conduct an investigation to determine if this is a hate crime. Of course, this looks like a hate crime. Justice in America is blind to color — or, maybe it is not! Ken Weitzel


Double standards


Rochester: If this were a case of four white teens going after a black teen, there would be so much uproar. As the tables are reversed, there is not. I wonder why? The President on down to the clergy are playing this off as a nothing. And it really is something. It is sad to say that lines are being drawn and if the young can’t get it through their heads that this is despicable, then America is in for a rough time. Patricia Cherwonij


Racist royalty

Brooklyn: Shaun King is biggest racist out there. So, saying “f–k white people” and then torturing a kid isn’t considered racist? I am 100% sure if this happened to a black person and they said “f—k black people,” King would be jumping all over that and screaming “Racism.” This is why I, nor anyone I know, will never take anything he has to say seriously. He’s a biased, racist, disgusting person. Julia Gunol

 

It's pretty unclear what you are trying to say here. Maybe you should use your own words.

I think the attack was definitely racially motivated (and Donald Trump motivated). These scums picked out this particular victim because he was an easy target because of his mental disability. I think it's pretty clear that this attack wasn't motivated because the victim had mental disabilities, it was about getting a "white boy" to torture.

 

No problem at all. But you can look it up yourself. I'll even make it easy for you. Just google up Don Lemon comments on Orlando shooter.

 

There are plenty of businesses in these areas already. How about we get all the guns and drugs out the neighborhoods and see where that leads us. Let me ask you a question if the same type of things were happening in white communities do you think the Gov't would sit idly by and do nothing.

 

To remove the drugs, and guns, two very simple steps must be taken ... First, the community must be willing to identify the criminals to police, and second, the police must " stop and frisk" those subjects that are identified. Criminals are not invisible. Neighbors, family, friends of these persons know who they are. Drug houses are known to all. If someone begins selling drugs in my suburban neighborhood, I'll know, I'll tell, and if the problem doesn't get resolved, I'll act.

 

The community used to identify the criminals and nothing was done other than the criminals terrorizing the folks who pointed them out. In most cases the police already know who the criminals are.

When I was a kid growing up the elder men in the neighborhood policed the neighborhood so drugs and criminal activity was almost unheard of, but that has changed today. If folks in the neighborhood start policing their own neighborhoods they will be punished more severely than the criminals who are running rampant. Why is that?

 

Yes, and "community activists" decry pro-active policing because it infringes on their civil liberties. Still others complain of lengthy prison sentences. Lastly, perhaps you shoul consult George Zimmerman about the community policing itself.

 

I am glad you recognize it is idealistic. I will meet your idealism, and counter with some perspective. Namely that these perps already live in a world pretty damned close to ideal.

Let us discuss miserable with a global historical perspective.
Poverty? The state determined "poverty" line in the US is worldwide middle class in the present. The basic comforts included in modern American "poverty" exceed the opulence available to the wealthiest people in all but the last two or three centuries.

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  [*]Housing - What counts as "poverty" in the US includes a place to live that is far larger, more comfortable, and better able to keep out the elements than the huts and hovels most of our ancestors ever lived in. Almost all include running water, sewage disposal, cooking and heating capabilities that do not include a room full of smoke.
  [*]Clothing - The clothes worn by even the poorest in our society are softer and warmer than the rough spun fabrics or treated skins worn by all but our most recent ancestors. Moreover, it is exceedingly rare for Americans to have only one set of clothes. Even homeless people tend to have an extra shirt or jacket in their packs or carts.
  [*]Food - The US never runs out of food. There are countless government and NGO programs for providing the poor with access to food. That does not even count that we have the richest garbage in the world with tons of edible, nourishing food being thrown away every day. For most of the history of humanity having more than a few percent of body fat was considerable and valuable wealth.
  [*]Medicine - For less than $20 any American can get better medical care over-the-counter at a drug store than was available to kings prior to the beginning of the twentieth century. Emergency rooms provide emergency treatment to all who come, regardless of ability to pay.​
• Education? Everyone, regardless of status, income, or citizenship gets free education until age 19. These a$sh#les had the internet to stream their brutality live, so they definitely had access to more information and educational material than was available in the fabled Library of Alexandria.
• Entertainment? For the price of an internet connection there is more art, music, and drama than was available to any thousand cosmopolitan kings from any period in history.
• Oppression? These exemplars of evil had sufficient freedom to go where they wanted, steal a vehicle, etc. without interference from the government. However much we say that some cops abuse their powers, we sure as hell do not live in a police state. That they were able to do what they did is proof. There are no programs to subvert family members to report each other to the secret police as there were in the USSR, Nazi Germany, etc.. There is no government censorship program as in modern China or the Spanish Inquisition.

These torturers may have been unhappy with their lot in life, but it was among the best lots ever drawn in the history of humanity.

The only reason anyone thinks that modern American "poverty" is not a winning lottery ticket is because they do not compare it to the realities of most people who have ever lived.

If these torturers were miserable, that was a personal problem, not a societal one, and it was almost certainly a result of inexcusable ingratitude for the blessings they have.

 

You hit the nail on the head. The difference between a good neighborhood and a horrible neighborhood is the crime, not the poverty.

The problem is that in many Black neighborhoods, there is already antipathy to the police. BLM and the race-riot-hungry media have fanned that flame, so now, for completely valid reasons, the police in many of these places, like Philadelphia, Milwaukee, and Ferguson have taken even a lighter touch in their involvement than they had before. As a result, these places will get even worse than they were before.

 

Not according to an earlier story. One was friends with the white kid. It was after a day or 2 they became agitated with him. I never heard why. That's when they started the torture.

And the story you commented on was meant, I think, to show, blacks are doing nothing different than whites have been doing since the days of slavery. Not that that justifies it in any way shape or form.

 

Really, which community activist was that?

Who are the "others" you are speaking of?

That wasn't community policing.

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Why? What caused that antipathy?

If that is what you believe its pretty obvious you don't have a clue.

 

That dumbass wasn't working on community policing. That dumbass has a hero-complex...and a (*)(*)(*)(*) poor attitude. Not to mention his violent streak. My bad. I JUST mentioned it.

 

Oh! lifes struggles from within the bubble ... I can't help but wonder how you can form an opinion with seemingly so little information on the subject at hand. Perhaps ask Siri for the answers you seek. I am not an educator, merely an informed conversationalist.

 

No, Zimmerman was a vigilante who decided to take his chances with the justice system.

 

Yep so informed you can't explain yourself.

 

Ummmm, that is pretty much what I said.

 

Not really. A vigilante acts in the furtherance of justice when law enforcement fails to. A vigilante presumes he has the tacit approval of the community. A jury of his peers both acknowledged, and rewarded Zimmermans service to the community. Zimmerman himself is perhaps despicable, and hardly a suitable poster boy, but he does illustrate how a community can take it upon itself to rid itself of crime. That was my point. If the police aren't enforcing the laws in a way in which the community approves, police yourselves, or quit crying.

 

The police had caught the kid he was responsible for the burglaries weeks earlier, so how was he doing what the police department wasn't doing. BTW Trayvon wasn't breaking the law, so your post makes no sense.

 

Oh so now you claim these are aall just bustling economic growth centers with low unemployment and great paying jobs therefore we do not need any economic growth programs and we can end all the welfare going into these zones.

You do know that sometimes your attempts to just be argumentative make you lose all credibilty?

Guns don't commit crimes but keeping illegal guns out of the hands of criminals and additional sentencing if one is used in a crime is certainly on my plate how about you?

YES as I said get the crime out and increase law enforcement and RESPECT the police and the law insteadnkf attackjng it.

No let me ask you a REAL question not some hypothetical. Why DON'T they happen in predominately white communities and what can we do to get predominantly black communities to emulate that?

 

Criminals terrorizing. It became their pop culture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Snitchin'

That the konly bad in breaking the law is if you get caught. A stolen TV is just a good deal. There is almost a total lawlessness in these communities and when the police do try tto enforce the law anand catch the crimjnals the communties lie about the events to try and get the POLICE in jail. Baltimore can't even hire enough police now and is, according to the union, at a critical stage because of how the local black government treated them and cleared the way for the lawlessness shown by ththe black community.