Man injured after officer involved shooting in Kenosha

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    Does having a knife in the car the same as having a knives on his person. It seems it is more like having a knife in his possession which is the vehicle.
     
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    The knife was found after the incident was over by police investigating.
    So the officers chasing and trying to arrest or detain Blake did not he Blake with a knife.
    I donrecall and Indid state in an earlier post that lake did bend down for something in the car. So the officer shot Blake asked on the fact that Blake was reaching for something.

    Ok so now Inwant to see what the Kinosha police protocol is if you can shoot someone strictly for reaching into a vehicle for some thing period. Do the police have to see a weapon? Would be nice to the protocol from the police.

    If I was the officer defense attorney I would argue that the officer feared for his life so he shot the guy 7 times.

    If I was Blakes attorney I would argue that Blake did not have a weapon in his physical possession at the time of the shooting. I would further argue that the officer was speculating that Blake was teaching for a weapon.

    You guys see this is not a simple clean cut case. That is why there are questions.
    Obviously people decide based on their own beliefs.
     
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    Blake had knife in car when Kenosha cop shot him: Wisconsin DOJ
    Jacob Blake had a knife on the floorboard of his car when he was shot by police, said the Wisconsin Department of Justice, which has identified the shooting officer as Rusten Sheskey.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/blake-had-knife-in-car-when-kenosha-cop-shot-him-wisconsin-doj

    He was going for another weapon. They yell at him in the video to drop the knife. Yet the MSM reports he was unarmed. That he was "just getting into his car". They leave out he fought with them and had already been TASED to no effect. Yea I call that lies of omission don't you? I call it deliberate misinformation to stoke the racial fires before the election.

    And I would point out that I am the only one dealing with the facts, ALL the facts here.
     
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    He was armed and dangerous and threatened the police. He was being arrested for an outstanding felony sexual assault. He had priors he knew he was going to prison and decided he wasn't going. HE caused the police to use their weapons to stop him. Why do you keep defending this guy, he also endangered the children in the car.

    So why are they burning down the town? Why are there riots? What is the "injustice" so no peace?
     
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    How about doing it on the facts and evidence ALL of it?

    He was a wanted felony for a sexual assault with priors of violent attacks armed attacks, he fought them to the ground, the police believed he was armed with a knife, they TASED him to no effect, he moved around the vehicle fighting off attempts to stop him and opened the door, he then reached in....................BOOM.

    They followed their training and reacted accordingly. Let's stop making some martyr out of him, he was a violent criminal who refused to be taken into custody and threatened the police with serious bodily harm or death. Guess what that gets you? Lethal force to stop you.
     
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    Until just a little while ago the facts were that there was no proof that Blake physically had a weapon on him. That is why it why it was said that he was unarmed. The facts are that when Blake was shot he did not have a weapon on his person.

    If he physically had a knife on him there gas not been any video showing that.

    This is not a clear cut case.

    If Blake did have a knife on him the Kinosha police spokesperson should have said that the investigation is ongoing but that there is proof that Blake had a while on him and was told to drop it.

    When there is a vacuum instead of information humans fill that vacuum.
     
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    I am not and never was defending the guy. You say he endangered the kids in the car. That can be argued as true. But from the video it seemed that it could be argued that the police may also have endangered the kids by shooting in their vicinity.

    Was there a way that the police could have gotten him in the future when there were no children near him?

    I keep saying that this is not a clear cut case. It is a no win case for everyone.
     
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    And if there was a gun on the car seat, so when they let him reach in, one of the cops ends up with a bullet in the brain by a complete piece of trash. They already knew this guy was a violent felon. They couldn’t take chances after he already resisted arrest and fought with cops and possibly took his kids were n a drive to their death. Cops I’ve to assume the worst from a person as dangerous as that.

    Find better role models.
     
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    Some interesting commentary here...
     
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    Cut the bullschies with " roll model". You want to debate like an adult fine. We can disagree or agree on issues.

    Did I say that this guy was a roll model? Did anyone else cal that Blake guy a roll model ? You know that. Either I nor anyone else didgat.

    That us the best you can do is make up false schiest !
    With this roll model schiest I declare you not worthy of adult debating.
     
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    Wisconsin AG says police recovered a knife from the driver's side floor of Jacob Blake's car and confirms that ONE cop shot him seven times as they responded to 911 call from Blake's girlfriend
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-armed-KNIFE-cops-shot-says-Wisconsin-AG.html

    So its confirmed he had been tazed, continued to resist arrest, and had a knife.

    How many lives were destroyed because of this thug?
     
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    He had a knife on his person. He was in the vehicle when he was shot.

    Thus the knife was on the floorboard.

    The video shows him holding the knife, but people still refused to believe it.
     
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    All of the officers were in a scuffle, then all of the officers let him go and pulled out their weapons at the same time.

    When do you think they realized he had a knife?

    And you'd lose because it's on video.
     
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    The video I saw from Monday which is now gone did not show Blake in the car. The closest to being in the car was him being shot in the back bending down near an open door. Do you have a link that shows him in the car and holding the knife? I would like to see it.
     
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    Who was pushing the car horn after the shots were fired?

    Somebody not in the car I guess.

    Keep dancing. Lol
     
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    Political leaders and the MSM along with sports stars and entertainers are claiming the cops shot a innocent black father of 6 in the back for doing nothing wrong. It’s a total LIE! And you keep trying to “figure out” what the cops did wrong when you should be admitting all the things HE did wrong which led to him getting shot. The cops gave him plenty of chances and a moron got himself shot. It’s quite simple. Countless people have altercations and interactions with cops every day and the vast majority don’t get anyone hurt.

    That’s the real truth.
     
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    Actually the one GOOD thing I can point out when watching the video is that the officer moved to an angle as to not be aiming in the direction of the children in the vehicle or the bystanders in front of the houses.

    I could point out a number of things he did wrong, but he was clearly conscious of the others nearby.

    I'd be more than happy to admit he made numerous mistakes, though.
     
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    All well and fine but do you have a link to that video?
     
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    Where is the link to the video? You quote the video but to not postba link.
     
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    Are you freaking kidding??? No in in f*** the guy lunges for a gun and get shots off before the police can fire. No way.
     
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    Oh I dunno.... Maybe wait for him to actually grab something and begin to turn? You have your gone drawn at close range, the perp would have zero chance of getting a shot off. What you don't do is shoot a man in the back because he isn't obeying your orders.
     
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    Looks like a cell phone to me.

    As I said, that would explain why all of the officers backed away and pulled out their weapons at the same time... and yelled "drop the knife".

    Logic and stuff.
     
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    Had he got into the vehicle and turned it on, then what? You going to let a two time felon with an open warrant drive off with three children in the vehicle so that he can use them as leverage when police try to arrest him later?

    Especially after he was just in a fist fight with a police officer because the taser they used on him was ineffective?
     
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    Look I do not have time for cowards false accusers or low credibility people. You accused me of having Blake up as a roll model. You know that is a false accusation and a cowardly act to throw into a debate.

    You just closed your post with " That's the real truth" . Well the real truth is that no know one in this thread claimed Blake to be a roll model and you know that but you still put that schiest out there probably thinking that you scored a hit with a false one line troll statement. I have no time for that.
     
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    Ever bring a knife to a gunfight? It's no excuse to shoot him in the back unless he was attacking with the knife.
     

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