Manafort lied after pleading guilty, Mueller's team says

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  1. TrueScotsman

    TrueScotsman Well-Known Member

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    Go look at what we are learning about concerning his lies. There is no witch hunt, you are parroting the president's legal defense. These people keep lying because there is something to hide.
     
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    An article relying on one anonymous claim and admitting that the embassy has no record of Manafort's visit is NOT a sourced article lol

    Lest we forget that the Guardian is reputable among radical left only, others recognize its extreme bias, matching or exceeding that of the NY Times and Huffingtonpost.
     
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    manafort met with assange. denial of collusion is pretty much moot now.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-m...nge-ahead-2016-leaks-170439615--politics.html
     
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    The charges, that were part of the plea were about financial improprieties that occurred a decade ago. Mueller tried leveraging that charge against info pertaining to the campaign. This clearly doesn't seem to have born any fruit. So now what? Mueller gets a conviction, Trump may or may not pardon, what new justice was accomplished here?
     
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    No, I meant Rosenstein since he's Robert Mueller's immediate boss in the investigation. Whitaker is Rosenstein's boss, but Mueller gives his recommendations to Rosenstein, not Whitaker.
     
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    I didn't 'forget' anything. Whether or not he'll be charged in any crimes as a result of the Mueller investigation is still to be seen. He may be a non-indicted co-conspirator just as he is in the payout to Stormy Daniels, we don't know that yet and will only know that when the investigation concludes. Other charges which may be criminal but won't come until after he's out of office in 2020 are charges that the Attny General of New York will bring.
     
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    So why’s it coming out that he was meeting with Assange??
     
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    Manafort voluntarily forfeited those assets. They were the products of his crimes.

    As for an updated number, you can double the $17 million and Mueller still comes out as recovering more than his total costs.
     
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    You have proven nothing.
     
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    Which is good, because he owes Oleg Deripashka $19 million, which is why he offered the Russians "insider" briefings on the internal state of the Trump campaign while he was chairman.
     
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    Wrong, not any more, he was reporting to Rosenstein only because Sessions recused himself, now he is reporting DIRECTLY to Whitaker.
     
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    Whether the report will be "devastating" is still to be seen as well but it didn't prevent you from mentioning one part of Derschovits statement and omitting the part where he states that Trump has committed no crimes and that the report will be horribly one sided and biased.
     
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    well we will soon learn about it !!
     
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    You have proven non of your childish accusations.
    Show transactional proof that the Clinton's specifically Hillary as Sec of State had a quid pro quo transaction with Russians. Where is your proof? Where is your proof that she and Bill "worked " with the Russians
    What does "worked" with Russians mean? What he he do? He gave a speech which I would not have done. But be specific.
    You have plenty of opinion as to who you accuse of doing something but proof is a vacant vessel with you.

    Manafort has been found to have not disclosed income earned from a foreign entity and then bank fraud.

    Collusion I cannot proove so I can only opine as you do about the Clintons.

    Funny how the plank in the 2016 Republican convtion about leathal support weapons for Ukraine went missing not long after Manafort aka Mr. Pro Russia showed. Thstbis my observation.

    If you notice I do not condemn people for being right , left, or muddle wingers. I do not condemn anyone for being a liberal or a conservative. A socialist, communist or a Nazi yes I condemn them.

    As I have told you and some others here present an issue or policy that I support and we can discuss like adults.

    You just seem to want to pigeonhole me as a leftist or liberal but you cannot because my political beliefs are by issue accross the board in the reasonable sane range.

    Younwill never understand that or never admit it because you are bent on fighting that windmill.
     
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    Ok so no explanation then?
     
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    RW Fever Swampers don't need "proof".

    They just hear some unsubstantiated BS (from a RW Troll on 4chan--With Zero Attribution), and then come to places like PF to spread this UNPROVEN BS.

    Textbook RW Playbook (in the Age of Trump).

    The RW = Just spew UNPROVEN BS (troll for a few "likes" among the similarly situated, and completely not care about how FOOLISH that they appear).

    Oh, and back on topic, Of Course Manafort LIED.
     
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    well the guardian is going to have to give you those answers.
     
  19. HumbledPi

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    Alan Derschowitz hasn't read the Mueller report as far as anyone knows and he didn't even have the authority to make his statement regarding the investigation to be "devastating" to Trump politically. As I've said before and will repeat again, there may be absolutely no criminal charges coming for Trump due to the results of this particular investigation into collusion. Any criminal charges against Don Jr., Kusher, Ivanka, Erik or Donald Sr. may result in charges and indictments that relate to criminal activity within their extensive business with ties to Saudi or Russian money.
     
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    Wrong again. His immediate BOSS is Rod Rosenstein.
     
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    Rosenstein was only his boss because Sessions recused. Jeff is gone, Whitaker is muellers boss now.
     
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    Not anymore unless Whitaker recuses
     
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    Yes I would continue to throw that line out when I'm beaten too.
     
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    LOL I'm not the Don Quixote in this discussion my friend. That would be you :)

    The quid pro quo has already been proven countless times. Do you really think just denying it would make it go away?


    It’s turning out that there was in fact Russian meddling in the election last year, and it was not meddling in behalf of Donald Trump, as Hillary and the Democrats have been so loudly decrying for months, but meddling in behalf of the little lady late of Little Rock.


    Two tales of chicanery are hotly pursuing Hillary and prominent figures in her campaign. The first is the uranium scam, the purchase of certain assets, arranged and managed by Canadian “facilitators” who greased the path of these assets to the Russians with enormous donations (the grease) to the Clinton Foundation, and even a speech for Bubba in Moscow. He pocketed a cool half-million dollars for reworking an oldie and not even necessarily a goodie. This was a transaction that had to be approved by the State Department, and who better to approve it than a secretary of State.

    The FBI discovered this grease moving back and forth in a vast bribery scheme — bigger even than the vast right-wing media that could make up sleazy stuff about a president and a White House intern. The existence of this vast bribery scheme was not disclosed to the agencies of the government examining the details of a transfer in 2010 of American commercial nuclear assets to Russia.

    There was no attempt by the FBI to break up the bribery scheme, and five years later, Atty. Gen. Eric Holder and President Obama’s Justice Department disclosed a plea bargain to settle the case with the Russian managing the bribes on a convenient Friday afternoon when the story could be put quietly to sleep, where it slumbered until the Hill, a daily newspaper on Capitol Hill, shook it awake last week.


    No ahead back to your tired "nuh uh" argument with no evidence. Don't worry, its completely predicable. You can't deal with reality.


    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/26/hillary-clintons-russian-collusion-connection/
     
  25. HumbledPi

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    Yes, he's acting AG for now but Rosenstein is expected to continue to handle the day-to-day management of the probe, as he would for any other significant criminal investigation. The Democrats are pushing for the recusal of Whitaker in the Mueller investigation due to his friendships with key witnesses like Sam Clovis, but this will be something that will have to be put on the back burner until January.
     

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