Manafort lied after pleading guilty, Mueller's team says

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  1. MissingMayor

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    It's also a "line" used to call out people who are spouting nonsense. But I am sure you use it to defend your debunked conspiracy theories as you say.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stop with the Uranium One BS. It's been thoroughly debunked. The guy who wrote the book on it, Peter Schweizer, doesn't even try to defend that BS anymore. Hint, the guy who donated the money to her campaign that was "the head of Uranium one", sold the company 7 years before he donated to the Clinton Foundation.

    Maybe you guys should give half the effort you're giving to this already debunked conspiracy theory, to investigate the Trump Foundation like the NY State Attorney General did. And he found some shiiiittttttttt.....
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Manaforts "financial impropriety" was laundering money via Russian real estate. Yeah, that happens every day.....

    What about the other indictments Mueller filed ? Those weren't worth it ?

    We don't know what Mueller has, so to say they are worthless is wishfull thinking at this point (for both sides)
     
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    Me? I don't write for the NY Times...I didn't conduct all the interviews....they did...did cash flow to the Foundation during that time period from people connected to Russia? Did Bill Clinton get a half million dollars from the Russians?
     
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    We know what he has, because he has issued indictments. None of the Mueller indictments with Manafort have anything to do with Trump, or are even close in time to the campaign.
     
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    Well, yes and no.... The indictments had nothing to do with Trump (except of course, he wouldn't have been investigated that hard if he didn't put the target on his own chest), but the indictments were very clear that the crimes were ongoing through the campaign, and in some cases, even past the election...
     
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    No and NO. No matter how many times you repeat it, it won't come true. You can click your heels three times and this still won't take you to Kansas

    The did get money, but it WASN'T for the stated purpose. But you think whatever helps you sleep at night
     
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    Yes it does. It shows that he WAS working with the Russians to launder money. That makes him "attainable" as an asset because they are indebted to foreign influence. This is exactly why Jared Kushners clearance was originally downgraded
     
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    Bill and Hillary's cash cow was the Communist-Chinese.
     
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    The article is clear cash was following from people connected, and yes bill CLinton got a half million for a speech to a Russian bank in Russia:
     
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    He was not convicted of money laundering for Russians, actually Russia was never mentioned at the trial
     
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    It's actually interesting, because it does mean the information contradicts other information. This means 1 of two things. 1) The Special Counsel has been able to sift truth from fiction and identify what the lies are. Or, more troubling 2) The Counsel hasn't been able to do this, and simply determined that the felon lied since the information was contradictory. The contradictory information makes it harder for Counsel to investigate(that's why lying is a crime to begin with.)

    One possibility is that Trump's written answers contradict whatever Manafort may have told them.
     
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    The “article” has been thuroughly debunked. It’s just a fact.

    And the part about Bill Clinton getting paid by russians for services he gave is true. But if the bell weather to corruption is just getting paid then Donald Trump is guilty as hell by that standard. Right ?
     
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    He laundered money by buying real estate in Russia. Thats again, just a FACT.
     
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    And other things(Ostrich Jackets lol.) Money laundering is done really by shifting income to various sources. The connection is honestly a bit flimsy.
     
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    That didn’t come out in court at all
     
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    What’s flimsy about laundering money ? He laundered it for reasons unknown....but surprisingly did that thru Russia.
     
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    I'm saying that because of the natural strategy of money laundering(to use various sources), to simply say "He laundered it in Russian assets because he COLLUDED with them" is a very skeptical reach, I don't think the Counsel would go there without building the pieces to that.

    But he's already being sentenced. They got(or didn't get, given the lies) what they could from Manafort.
     
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    Then prove it.

    Your opinion means nothing. Prove what you claim or admit you've got nothing to support yourself. Let's see it.

    Think first before dressing up in the super hero tights.
     
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    He was paid for his lobbying for Russia in the Ukrain by the “party of regions” which is a Russian lobbying group.

    And for the record, Ukrain at the time was run by Yanukovych who was a Russian puppet. He is currently wanted in the Ukrain for “High Treason” because he was a puppet for Putin.
     
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    You claim its been debunked yet cannot prove it. So incredibly typical.

    I accept your inability to defend your claims once again.
     
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    Normally I would agree with you on that AN. But if you read the indictment he was working for the russians in the Ukrain. And the other charge was failing to register as a foreign lobbyist for the government of the Ukrain (again, run by Putin puppet Yanukovych)

    There’s too many Russian ties there to not see that (at least for me)
     
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    For f’s sake.

    The claim: She received money from the head of Uranium one
    Debunk: she got it from him 7 years AFTER he sold Uranium one

    The claim: the money she received was payment to have her approve the Uranium one deal
    Debunk: She was only one of 9 people required to sign off on that deal. She had no power to make the deal happen

    Just because you don’t like that, doesnt make it any less true. It’s been debunked
     
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