Manchester shooting: Children among 10 hurt

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  1. flogger

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    No I just think killing is bad. Sorry if its confusing :wink:
     
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    No you don't. You just think your gross misrepresentation of what your 18th century constitution actually means gives you free gratis to be how you are today. I'm sure your Vegas shooter felt exactly the same way :wink:
     
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    But you can own a gun, and many Brits do. Are those Brits wanting the easy facility to kill someone?
     
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    Oh, so you want to discuss Constitutional interpretations? That's actually on topic for once. Why do you feel that the Constitution is misinterpreted?
     
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    Murder bad. Self defense good. Most other gun use neutral.
     
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    Not that many and most don't want to be Dirty Harry :wink:
     
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    According to your own FBI only one in 32 shootings is of a defensive nature ..... try harder ? :wink:
     
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    Because more of your citizenry have been killed over the last 50 years by domestic firearms than in all the wars you have fought since 1776 due to that misinterpretation .... sorry if its confusing :roll:
     
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    Most gun owners don't want to shoot anyone either.
     
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    Still waiting to see your discussion, with support, on the misinterpretation.
     
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    Justifiable homicides in self defense are but a fraction of the safe, lawful uses of firearms that the 80 million people with 350 million guns conduct every year.
     
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    I take it basic numeracy is a challenge for you then :)
     
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    So how many muggers don't shoot their victims then ?
     
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    The fact that the redcoats are long gone might have something to do with it :roll:
     
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    Well, the FBI counts around 1 million homicides, armed robberies and aggravate assaults each year.
     
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    We're not talking numbers; we're talking civics. And no, with degrees in Mathematics and Accounting, numeracy is not a challenge.
     
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    Your police are some 200 times more likely to die in the line of duty than ours, most of whom are shot. Explain that ?

    Also ....

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...re-difference-killings-officers-a7507051.html

    Why does your society uniquely accept this as being somehow a 'normal' way to be . ?
     
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    And that trend is clearly on the up :wink:

    Interestingly

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    Puts the UK's allegedly 'more violent' society into a proper context doesn't it ?
     
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    First place, are you talking about officers being shot or officers shooting people? Second, you are an island nation with a small and largely homogeneous population with a pretty uniform set of laws. We are the biggest western nation in the world with more and bigger cities. You can cross a state border and be under a completely different set of laws and how they are enforced. The problem foreigners have when comparing us to their country is simply that we aren't homogeneous. So while it may be true that we have more police shootings than you do, they are largely concentrated into large cities and certain states. BTW, I wasn't the one who said that the UK is more violent than us.
     
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    Unless the killing is authorized and carried out by the government rather than a private individual, correct?
     
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    Well, clearly you are utterly irrational and incapable of making sense. Off to the ignore list you go.
     
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    A practice condoned in the UK, as well as torture.
     

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