Mara Zebest: Top Computer Graphic Expert In The Nation Going After Obama.

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  1. WongKimArk

    WongKimArk Banned

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    For god's sake. Can you do nothing for yourself?

    Loren Collins is a conservative lawyer from Atlanta. He does not and has never supported Obama, though he is a powerfully effective anti-Birther.

    His discovery of Polarik's identity was verified later by Birther lawyer Phil Berg on July 30, 2009, when Berg filed a letter to Judge Eduardo C. Robeno in U.S. District Court protesting the outing of the identification of his witness, documenting various prior threats to do so.

    At page 6, Berg asserts,

    If you want to see how Polland lied about his resume and experience in his own words (through his posts as "Polarik" on FreeRepublic) Loren kept track of them (complete with links to the original postings) here:

    http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2009/07/special-message-from-polarik-on_07.html
     
  2. _Inquisitor_

    _Inquisitor_ Well-Known Member

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    What did I say?

    Your expertise that she is not the top computer Graphic expert in the Nation' is based on what expertise of yours? And how does it exceed the expertise of birthers?
     
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    She's qualified on Photoshop. There is no evidence that she is qualified on anything else.

    She is no different from any of the other incompetent amateur Birther "image analysts" that have been popping up and getting it wrong for the last three weeks.
     
  4. WongKimArk

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    That would be more meaningful if Adobe had been used to make the PDF.

    It wasn't.
     
  5. _Inquisitor_

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    And I said the 4th time:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...t-nation-going-after-obama-5.html#post3894386

    http://www.wipeout44.com/brain_food/multipage_pdf.asp

    Of course Obama supporters have more expertise than the professional author of books on Adobe.
    They have more expertise on Constitutional law than a Harvard gradutate in Law.

    Of course.


    I am posting the link. It is the facts. facts tell that Obama operatives keep on going in circles:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ert-nation-going-after-obama.html#post3893973

    But Obama's operatives keep on going in circles.

    I guess no computer graphics was used and Adobe is not about computer graphics, imaging...

    What was used that is not included in Adobe specs?? http://www.adobe.com/devnet-apps/photoshop/fileformatashtml/
     
  6. WongKimArk

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    Is that a stutter? Tourette's?
     
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    And, he's a woman.
     
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    The last time you won the debate with posting something like, Inquisitor you should not use drugs.

    This time you have won the debate with the same.

    The same, the same.

    I like to expose the level of intellect and morality of people voting for Obama.
     
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    he is man. She is a woman. Mods should prevent 4th graders from posting here. A half of obama's supporters would be gone.
     
  10. SFJEFF

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    I do not know whether she is or is not the "top computer expert" in the U.S..

    Birthers made the claim that she is- and that claim does not appear to be supported in anyway by the evidence. I bothered to actually take a few minutes to look up her information. Nowhere except in Birther fluff pieces is she referred to as even an expert- let alone the nations top expert.

    Which is my point- Birthers lie about people's credentials to fluff up their importance. This is just my pointing out another Birther misrepresentation.
    Now if you can provide some evidence to support the assertion the birther claim that she is the "Top Computer Graphic Expert in the Nation" I will gladly retract my claim that this is an outright Birther lie.
     
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    It is a fact that you are posting a link to an Anti-Obama blog.

    Other than that, I don't know what fact you are crowing about.

    Now facts we do know about that are not from a Birther blog are the usual ones that Birthers ignore- you know Hawaii declaring President Obama a natural born citizen, etc, ect.
     
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    The reason I bother to refute such assertions is because I do care about the real Constitution- not the one that you have in your mind.

    And the real Constitution everyone agrees says that Barack Obama is a natural born citizen.

    Here is another quote for you:

    retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor wrote:

    All of our Presidents have, to date, been born in the 50 states. Notably, President Obama was born in the state of Hawaii, and so is clearly a natural born citizen.

    In this she reflects the opinion of the American people, Congress, the Supreme Court- pretty much everyone but you and Apuzzo.

    That is because we actually care about the real Constitution- not the one in your mind.
     
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    I love how every post of yours exposes the lack of intellect and morality of the people who are fervent Obamahaters.
     
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    And mods should prevent illiterates from posting here, but that would thin the right-wing herd to extinction.
     
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    If birthers had any 'expertise' in anything Obama would be sitting in jail for fraud.
    Unfortunately they have no evidence of anything-two and a half years of nothing. If they did have something don't you think some hot-shot lawyer would be all over this birther idiocy?
     
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    Figures he'd pluck one out his anal area, very quickly after 2 1/2 years of deliberately not producing it! It just doesn't make sense, he'd spend millions to keep them locked up and then hurriedly produce the document. He's so slick, no one would suspect!
     
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    Did not I answer your attempt to deception 5 times? The name of OP or an article may be provocative. It is no different from Ops of Obama’s supporters. Only obtrusive people would dismiss the text because of this fact.

    She is an expert, good enough to listen to.
    Obama has enough money to pay for good experts on his side to counter her.

    The problem does NOT get resolved.

    If it is in America, the case must go to the court of law to be solved. Thanks to you guys, it is not America anymore, but some third world country where the rule of law is not desired or needed by people. People instead want bread and circus. The Tea party achieved only on promise of bread.


    But it is said in the Bible that it is not only bread the man lives on...
     
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    About 19 years ago, a few white police officers were acquitted for beating a black man after a high speed drug fuels car chase. This sparked the L.A. riots which caused 53 deaths and over $1,000,000,000 in damages.
    If obama was disqualified for a technicality like not being a US citizen, you would have seen the same thing, except all over the country.
    Now, two plus years later, those who let obama take office will fight tooth and nail to keep those treachery secret and continue keeping the US from being torn apart due to a technicality.

    This is why anybody that can do anything to remove him wont. And anybody that provides proof of the fraud are marginalized and lambasted.
     
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    That's your come back? Hahaha!
     
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    Maybe Trump's paying her?
     
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    In a civilized society there are certain requirements for an intelligent conversation.
    For instance if one says that Obama supporters do not belong to a civilized society, one would just prove that he is an Obama supporter.

    On other hand if one says;
    Look at this fact
    look at this argument
    the only conclusion possible from this facts and arguments is that Obama supporters do not belong to a civilized society

    then one passes as a civilized person.

    When his opponent quotes the conclusion omitting facts and arguments and says that Obama oponnents do not belong to a civilized society
    this person is not civilized, he just proves that he is an Obama supporter
     
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    So do you think that is what should happen to him, if the allegations are true? Seriously, I would like to know what you think. And, don't use the lame answer..."but it isn't true" we all know you don't believe it. But.....
     
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    You haven't answered me once. You have posted the link about 5 times- a link to a Birther blog.

    You haven't addressed the outright misrepresentations of Birthers in a pathetic attempt to make this relevent.


    Hah- please show me an example of where I have conflated the expertise of someone?

    Have I overstated the credentials of Dr. Fukino when she stated that President Obama was born in Hawaii?

    Have I overstated the authority of Republican Governor Lingle when she stated that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii?

    Have I misrepresented what the State of Hawaii says on its web site- where it clearly states that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and that the birth certificate is authentic?

    Show me.

    We only have the word of Birthers, from a Birther blog that she is an 'expert'. The only fact we know for sure is that she has some expertise- how much is unclear- in Photoshop. But I doubt anyone will bother to drop a dime countering her.


    Really? Where in your Constitution does it say that? See in my America, we follow the law, and the Constitution. And the law and the Constittuion say that President Obama is the President. And that only Congress is authorized to remove a sitting President.

    Unlike Birthers, who dream of some military or judicial coupe against the President, the rest of us recognize that the seditious Birther dreams are bogus.
     
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    Okay I will play your game:

    The fact is that Birther conflated the importance of their expert.
    You have stated a bunch of non-facts and you have stated your unsubstantiated conclusions.

    Which is of course the Birther M.O.- speculation, innuendo and smears against those who actually challenge them to support their accusations.

    Thats why it sucks to be a Birther- the facts all show that President Obama was born in the United States and is indeed a natural born citizen.

    But Birthers will always be looking for 'nits' and pretending they are facts.
     

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