Mara Zebest: Top Computer Graphic Expert In The Nation Going After Obama.

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  1. WongKimArk

    WongKimArk Banned

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    Here's the original that your fake was made from:


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  2. LorenC

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    The answer to both your questions would be "Me."

    It's funny that I should be Googling about this Mara Zebest claim, and should stumble across mention of myself. Small world.

    Anyhow, amidst all the debate about how much of an 'expert' Mara Zebest really is, I think everyone is missing the larger and more basic question:

    Did Mara Zebest ever actually say these things?

    I'm not so sure that she did. And if she didn't, it makes the debate over her credentials rather moot.

    The Apuzzo post that started this thread cited ObamaReleaseYourRecords, which in turn cited Globe Magazine, which in turn cited "On several sites an online treatise by Zebeth."

    And said online treatise appears to have been first posted by Atlas Shrugs mere hours after the long-form was released. It was attributed only to a non-specific "Mara." No link, source, or surname was provided. No one in the comments thread seems to think that Mara is any expert of note.

    So what's our source that these are actually Mara Zebest's words and opinions?
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    The funny part is- there is no reason why there shouldn't be a sign saying "Barack Obama was born in Kenya"

    Because Barack Obama Sr. certainly was.
     
  4. SFJEFF

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    Well a lot of Birthers are saying it is so, and a lot of Birther blogs say it is so.....for crying out loud you aren't asking for actual facts or confirmation are you?
     
  5. Apuzzo

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    Based on what facts?
     
  6. Apuzzo

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    Tell me what her resume says she does.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo[/ame]
     
  8. SFJEFF

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    In her own words:

    "Mara Zebest is a graphic artist who uses her knowledge and skills in both volunteer andcommercial work. Mara has taught classes on Adobe and Microsoft programs for a local school district, and has also been a guest instructor at a nearby community college. She has experience working in a graphic marketing department, which has also afforded her printing production
    experience. Mara has been a contributing author and technical editor for numerous bookscovering a multitude of Adobe and Microsoft products. Mostly she hates talking about herself in the third person so she’ll stop now."

    Nowhere does she claim to be an graphic expert, nor to have any national recognition.
     
  9. Apuzzo

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    She says she has 'experience' working in a graphic marketing department.
     
  10. Smoke and Mirrors

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    Come one, come all to the greatest show on Earth! Looking to destroy your career? Look no further! Are you a disgruntled professional looking to be shamed for the rest of your life? You've come to the right place! Jump on the birther bandwagon and join the greatest show on Earth. Millions will be pointing; millions will be laughing! But hey, at least you'll be go down in infamy.

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  11. SFJEFF

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    Quite a far cry from your initial claim:

    "One of the nations top computer graphic experts has donated her expertise and has found that the document is quite indeed a forgery and created. Her name is Mara Zabest-Nathanson."

    She neither claims to be an expert or one of the nation's top experts.

    Now you are settling with she has experience working in a graphic marketing department?

    So what did you base your initial claim on? Wishful thinking?
     
  12. Apuzzo

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    Yes she is a document expert. She designs documents so she understands how to do it over computers.
     
  13. WongKimArk

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    Which of course has nothing to do with digital image forensics.
     
  14. WongKimArk

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    Big deal.

    She's a software user.
     
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    Your original claim:"One of the nations top computer graphic experts has donated her expertise and has found that the document is quite indeed a forgery and created. Her name is Mara Zabest-Nathanson."

    She neither claims to be an expert or one of the nation's top experts.

    Now you are settling with she has experience working in a graphic marketing department?
     
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    And that's a problem when it comes to analyzing the forged long form?
     
  17. SFJEFF

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    Apuzzo, Birthers are big on claiming that Obama lies.

    I am just pointing out your big lie.

    A typical Birther big lie.

    You made the claim that Mara Zebest is the "top computer graphic expert in the Nation"

    And it turns out that she isn't- at least there is no evidence to support your claim- and you don't even try to support your claim- as usual you move the goalposts- she has worked in a graphics department.

    So for a person who is big on making claims that Obama lies, why do you continually misrepresent the truth?

    Because I will tell you- I catch you misrepresenting the truth on a regular basis, whereas President Obama seems pretty consistantly truthful.
     
  18. WongKimArk

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    It is irrelevant to analyzing the long form.
     
  19. LorenC

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    Silly me.

    I'm also curious about this claim from Apuzzo's post:

    "In fact, Zebeth has co-authored no less than 17 books on the subject of advanced computer graphics,"

    17 books? I haven't seen any evidence that she's co-authored 17 books. Virtually every site that mentions her identifies only 3 books she's contributed to.

    Did the "17 books" claim come from this page, which has Zebest's name at the top but instead reads "Gary David Bouton has written more than 17 books on computer graphics."
     
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    I note that Apuzzo after birthing this thread has run off, as this house of cards comes tumbling down.

    This stinks of the typical Birther poorly executed hoax- not that I think Apuzzo was in on that- but that Birthers fall for this stuff because they never do any research beyond reading Birther blogs and nodding their heads in agreement.
     
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    I have a prediction.

    If it turns out that Mara never made the statement, expect Birthers to claim that someone 'got' to her, and forced her to claim she never made the statement.
     
  22. WongKimArk

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    Come on. This is the last Birther thread standing. Time to move it to the Conspiracy Theories....
     
  23. Serfin' USA

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    It's astounding, really.
     
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    "This is what brought John Edwards down. You can't dismiss this because tens of millions of Americans will see this story about his forgery produced last month. One of the nations top computer graphic experts has donated her expertise and has found that the document is quite indeed a forgery and created. Her name is Mara Zabest-Nathanson. I beleive it would be wise not to dismiss her educated guesses on this highly Constitutional matter. This story will surely make the White House nervous. "

    8 days later......crickets......

    No proof that Mara Zebest ever wrote this, nothing....just the usual Birther throw out another 'spectacular' event and run.
     
  25. jay559

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    To all the Obama supporters, answer a few questions about the long form BC:

    1. How could there possibly be a misspelling in the stamp at the bottom of the document, namely, "TXE" instead of "THE"? Note: To date there is no other example of this stamp having that misspelling.

    2. How could you possibly know that this document is authentic when the vast majority of the text is in digital format (AKA solid bitmap) and is clearly not a scanned copy of the original text?

    3. Why is there no evidence of aging on this purported 50 year old document like all other birth certificates that are decades old?

    4. According to an MSNBC report, the top Hawaiian official in charge of state health records, Fukino, claimed that Obama's long form BC was "half typed, half handwritten" and yet Obama's purported BC is all typed with the exception of the signatures and dates. Why doesn't Fukino's comment match Obama's birth certificate? source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics/t/ex-hawaii-official-denounces-ludicrous-birther-claims/
     

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