McCain hits Trump where it hurts, attacking ‘bone spur’ deferments in Vietnam

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  1. AlphaOmega

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    And?
     
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    That's on Trump. Particularly when you consider that his muslim ban arguably deprived those soldiers of valuable intelligence by reducing the willingness of our allies, like Chad, in the region to readily share information.
     
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    here's something factually correct. Trump sleezed out of his military service obligation.

    Oh and as long as you are talking about irrelevant things trump did not do, perhaps you noticed he didn't honor or even speak of the dead for 14 days, 2 of which were after he lied about his predecessors AND his own friggin actions and sent out Kelly to defend him.

    Pathetique - its a new line of trump whine.
     
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    As usual you have no evidence of your fabricated conspiracy theory.
     
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    After a week in which President Trump endured not-so-veiled criticisms from his two predecessors as president and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), McCain delivered another broadside that seems clearly aimed at Trump — in the most personal terms yet.

    McCain, whose status as a war hero Trump publicly and controversially doubted as a 2016 presidential candidate, appeared to retaliate in kind against the president in a C-SPAN interview about the Vietnam War airing Sunday night. In the interview, McCain pointed to wealthy Americans who were able to get out of being drafted into service in the conflict in which he spent years as a prisoner of war. And he pointed to a very specific type of deferment which Trump just happened to use.

    One aspect of the conflict, by the way, that I will never ever countenance is that we drafted the lowest-income level of America, and the highest-income level found a doctor that would say that they had a bone spur,” McCain said. “That is wrong. That is wrong. If we are going to ask every American to serve, every American should serve.”

    Trump received five deferments during Vietnam: four for his studies in college, and one for — you guessed it — bone spurs in his heel. As The Washington Post reported in July 2

    For the previous four years, Trump had avoided the draft — and the possibility of being sent to fight in the Vietnam War — by obtaining four separate deferments so he could study at Fordham University and the University of Pennsylvania. With his diploma in hand and his college days over, he was suddenly vulnerable to conscription.

    Trump’s exposure to the draft, however, didn’t last long. Two months later, on Sept. 17, 1968, he reported for an armed forces physical examination and was medically disqualified, according to the ledger from his local Selective Service System draft board in Jamaica, N.Y., now in the custody of the National Archives.


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...s-in-vietnam/ar-AAtV2iF?li=BBnb4R7&ocid=edgsp
     
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    He also allegedly pulled a high draft number so would not have been drafted anyway.
     
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    Meh. Irrelevant. None of those are president. Are They?
    Maybe Trump needs some more hits from the bong.
     
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    Ah, so if it is a democrat it doesn't matter. Check.
     
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    all factually incorrect
     
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    No one said war was flowers and kittens. Weve been telling you its quite the opposite. 4 soldiers died, there was no cover up nor a youtube lie to the nation. Are you actually blaming these 4 deaths on Trump? As in seriously? How many cops died from Obamas mouth flapping? Cops, we will ask about soldiers next.
     
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    Neither one backs up your BS claim that there is any direct connection. Try again and this time be man enough to quote the areas of each article you claim back you up so I can embarrass you fully.

    U.S. officials told NBC News that any conclusions regarding an intelligence failure are premature.

    From your own link which you obviously didn't read.
     
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    Nobody cares what that bitter old man has to say except alt-left Trump haters.
     
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    Bill Clinton wrote a letter to a Senator begging for help dodging the draft, and said he "loathed the military" in said letter.

    Still a hero of the alt-left.

    Hmmmm....
     
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    I never liked McCain much but, now that he is close to the end his is finally starting to make some sense Go McCain ! Make those last days count !
     
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    Hell slick willy didn't even go to the doc. He ran to Canada like the sniveling rapist/coward/traitor we all know well that the far left still idolizes.
     
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    :roflol::roflol:You actually believe that people self-medically exam themselves and tell the military whether they passed their own self-done physical or not. Do you also believe that people also tell the military what their rank will be too?
     
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    More fake outrage and old news. This attack was made in both the primary and general election and President Trump won.
     
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    I do think when he leaves the Senate and likely soon, while Republicans will praise him publicly having no choice, most Republicans silently will think "finally that Democrat-in-Republican-clothing is gone!"
     
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    The reason this is so pointless is that the military determined Trump was not medically qualified. On the other hand, neither Bill or Hilary Clinton nor Barack or Michelle Obama went into the military. So it was always a non-issue as the election of Trump was between two people who never served in the military.
     
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    In my initial post, I said, "arguably." I am not quoting any officials. I am making a rational conclusion based on multiple pieces of evidence (which I cited). And a "premature" conclusion does very little to my argument. The attack on Benghazi being caused by a planned terrorist attack was a "premature" conclusion which ultimately proved to be correct.
     
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    B.S. Trump's feuds are petty little personal squabbles that Trump often starts in order to pander to the game show sensibilities of his unsophisticated base.

    He couldn't care less about anything else.
     
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    spot on
     
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    so you guys were outsmarted by game show sensible unsophisticated people? Can you please describe the people who are against trump?
     
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    And you served when in the military?
     

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