<<Mod Warning>>Ukraine conflict: Evacuation planned in frontline town of Avdiivka

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's a little inside information as to why the Nazi idiots are killing others and giving up their lives from the Ukrainian blogger Tyutyunnik:

    People sometimes forget about what (criminal) country and world we live in. Now I’ll tell you what is really happening in Avdeevka. When you understand that they are going on an offensive for the sake of money and power, you can really see how sick it is.

    Poroshenko rolled out a bill to Akhmetov in the amount of $200,000,000 as taxes or a kickback since it's going to be pocketed anyway. When he asked what it is for, I've already paid my taxes, the Avdeevka situation followed right after and Akhmetov’s Avdeevka Coke Plant was left without power.

    People are saying that Putin attacked, (of course because Nazis are idiots. They even thought a religious procession was a Russian invasion). Volunteers are gathering aid, but Akhmetov and Poroshenko will come to a deal, and the shelling will cease.

    So Poroshenko is blackmailing, (like a true mafia leader). If someone doesn't want to pay security for their business, then they will have to take human losses and the destruction can be blamed on the LPR and DPR terrorists. (Well, Poroshenko does own the TV station, so it's not hard to do).

    Do you understand the essence of this blackmail? If you don’t want to pay for the security of your business, then you will have to take human losses for which the attacks and the destruction can be blamed on the LPR and DPR (women and children victims. ..or better yet on Vladimir Putin).

    If what the blogger says is true, then I think his own survival rate is nil. Of course Poroshenko's situation right now is precarious, so maybe he really does want to restart the war so he can kill off more men and sell their land to some multinational corporation like Monsanto... That way he can pocket billions. He knows Trump won't help help him, nor will the EU, and he is not going to use his own money, so what better way than to blackmail Akhmetov.


     
  2. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Ukraine needs to reinstate Viktor Fedorovych Yanukovych as president. And the protesters should go back home to Amerika.

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  3. zoom_copter66

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    That won't happen...1) he'll get shot, 2) unreliable as far as Putin is concerned, why take another chance, Putin is unforgiving.
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh then Putin is in cahoots with Poroshenko and doesn't want anyone criticizing him. Thanks for that bit of information. :roll:
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How little you know. The Russians unlike those in Western services, are taught to work independently. But now you know. Isn't it nice to have someone like me to educate you. :lol:
     
  6. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    where have you been last month? dont you know that Obama is not a president anymore?
     
  7. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're not making any sense. You're not hitting this again? :alcoholic:
     
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    He's not president any more but before he left he destroyed the Ukraine. Now Vlado has to fix it again. Maybe Trump will help him.
     
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    This war I will too.
     
  10. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    Obama left Ukraine with powerful army which could resist ASIATIC HORDES OF MUSCOVITES - chechen Muslims (kadyrovtsy) , European far- right and extreme left white trash , etc. and defend our European values in 95% of Ukrainian Territory

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    Putin can fix Ukraine-Russia war alone. Trump isn't involved this case. A war Russia can win.

    Well. Land forces are for Russia 120,000 man and against Ukraine proffesional armed forces ?
     
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    Lol..you never know who Putin might be in cahoots with...I'm assuming you're privy to his private conversations? According to some people here he bought off our current president , so he must be working for the "man " now??? Strange world?
     
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    Independent as in give us more guns and bullets...HURRY!
     
  15. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If this is a reflection of European values, then I'm proud not to be part of them.

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    in the way how he fixed chechenya? pay it yearly war - contribution? 92% its budget LOL in reality 200% and more
     
  17. Ole Ole

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    Russia want little smaller land forces than Ukraine land forces + Ukraine haven't big reserve now.
     
  18. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia isn't needed. All that's needed is for Putin to butt out and let the Donbas forces to take over Ukraine. Strelkov wanted to march to Kiev, and was ready to free Mariupol and Odessa twice when Putin stopped them by closing the border. Both times the Ukrainian army was trapped and Poroshenko wanted to sue for peace.

    We see how much Poroshenko respected the peace deals he signed. No sooner had he signed the first one, than he began preparing his men for war again. I guess lying is another one of the Western values Litwin brags about. Now Poroshenko's is starting the war again, but he might find out that without his corrupt friend Biden, things might not turn out the way he wants.

    This is from the Duran:


    Ukrainian offensive in Avdeevka criticised in Western capitals as an attempt to prevent Trump administration lifting sanctions on Russia, with Germany expressing concerns it may backfire.

    We all agreed that the likely response of the Ukrainian regime to the steps the Trump administration is taking to try to patch up US relations with Russia would be to escalate military tensions in the Donbass with a view in part to bolstering its political support in the West as this appeared to slide.

    Our discussion took place in the early stages of the latest Ukrainian military offensive near the village of Avdeevka in eastern Ukraine. Since we had our discussion the situation has escalated – exactly as we predicted – with the fighting becoming fiercer and more bitter.

    If I was Poroshenko I wouldn't mess around with Trump. Unlike the corrupt Obama administration, he hates Nazis, terrorists and criminals... and the government in Kiev fits all three categories..
     
  19. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the latest war report from Southfront:

    So far [12:00 CET], 85 fighters of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and pro-Kiev paramilitary groups have been killed and 315 others wounded in clashes with forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), according to information obtained by SF.
     
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    I realize that Ukraine do not need Russian troops in Ukraine territorium. I've change me just this evening.
     
  21. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you're on the front? Well what can you expect from the people you're with. They thought a religious procession was a Russian invasion. Too many drugs and alcohol I think... either that or they're hearing voices in their heads.
     
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    How do you know...that religious procession...could have been some sort of incursion. The russian Orthodox Church is heavily infiltrated by the FSB.
     
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    Of course Russia is needed..how else will they get to Kyiv(this is correct spelling of it btw, try not to forget). You just said strelkov was going to march on but dwarfs stopped him..why? Well the Kremlin doesn't need any direct links to it from all this so vermin like motorola, Givi, strelkov, fit the bill temporarily, until they're not needed, then they suddenly have an accident like motorola. These are all expendable you see, just like this novorussia concept.
     
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    Yes pay blood money to a viper(kadyrov) to keep the peace...what happens then if Kadyrov doesn't want to play anymore...Chechnya part III, so that's why he has all those personal troops of his, this time he's more than ready!
     
  25. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right, so you can hit more homes. You must really be proud of yourself.

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