<<Mod Warning>>Ukraine conflict: Evacuation planned in frontline town of Avdiivka

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  1. Balancer

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    Why "now"? Their Kiev never plainly also observed. Also breaks constantly from the moment of his conclusion. Therefore the Minsk agreements are also not carried out that Kiev isn't interested in them.

    We watch the text of arrangements:

    Ukraine never stopped firings of Donbass. Only intensity of these firings changes.

    This clause, in general, was implemented. But also it was broken more than once. At the moment &#8212; yes, it is broken again.

    This clause has been implemented. But he bears not enough sense, considering that OSCE plays on side of Ukraine.

    Never it was carried out. Kiev also doesn't plan it to carry out.

    Kiev actively pursues combatants on side of Donbass.

    Kiev continues to take new hostages. Including among the civilian population.

    Well and so on... Ukraine isn't going to carry out these arrangements.
     
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    Oh well you see they have good teachers...seems the terrorists ooops..rebels and their handlers seem to be good at violating ..well just about everything..has there been any word or agreement the Muscovites honored..funny you mention clowns...the freedom fighters there I got it seem to go begging Everytime for $$$$..weapons..drugs..talk about clowns:).
     
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    I wanted this war and no war between Suiss and USA.

    Two orthodoxer Ukraine vs Russia to mets in holy war.

    I am hope for Russia victoriuos.

    Well.
     
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    It does not have an "eye", it is the "voice". It is the voice of the facts and the truth.

    What can you &#8194;protest to?:smile:

    The beliefs that you can not justify on the basis of the facts - it is not a belief. This is just your assumption.In this case, it was a funny suggestion.Just so i "having fun". Perhaps you have decided to cheer forum ....

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    This is your answer to these photos? ..where Ukrainian punitive hide their tanks for homes with civilians ....
    (*)(*)You can no longer say anything?
     
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    Dimitri Khalezov: Please...
     
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    Thank you. So what? Is Dimitri Khalezov somehow incredibly spying on Americans this forum?
     
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    Do you know who he is?
     
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    Why so many words about these dimitri khalezov?
    This is a topic about the Ukrainian punitive in Avdeevka..
    Are You can't say anything on the subject of Ukrainian punitive in Avdeevka?

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    If people had been paying attention to the war in Ukraine, they would have noticed how they always started when Biden paid Kiev a visit. Here are a few excerpts from Moon of Alabama:

    On New Year the neo-conservative Senators McCain and Graham were in Ukraine to fire up Ukrainian troops at the front lines for a new fight with Russia supported rebels in Donetsk and Lugansk. A few days later then Vice President Biden also dropped in on Kiev. The three are declared enemies of Trump's more friendly position towards Russia. They obviously intended to reignite the conflict in Ukraine to sabotage Trump's new foreign policy.

    Pres. Poroshenko fell for the incitement and assurances from the senators and restarted the war with the separatists. Multiple news outlets and even Ukrainian generals first admitted that it was the Kiev government that started the current round of fighting by "creeping" into the no-man's zone that was supposed to separate the belligerents. But as usual the "western" media now try to change history and to put the guilt on Russia. They press for a U.S. "response" to the "Russian aggression".

    Poroshenko tried for several days to get a phone call with President Trump. But on Thursday Trump met Poroshenko's opposition in Ukraine Yuliya Tymoshenko. She is a former prime minister and - said mildly- a controversial figure. But with some help she could probably win an election in Ukraine should Poroshenko step down.

    On Saturday Trump finally had a phone call with Poroshenko. The very short readout is a blast. It speaks of "Ukraine's long-running conflict with Russia" and adds:

    "We will work with Ukraine, Russia, and all other parties involved to help them restore peace along the border," said President Trump.

    My instant micro interpretation of the readout was:

    Trump to Poroshenko (translated): I know you started this on order of McCain/Graham/Biden. Screw you. You will win nothing. You are out.​


     
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    The most ridiculous is that the West charges Russia of violations of the Minsk agreements. Though the only thing, than can help with this situation Russia is physically to destroy the Ukrainian tanks and artillery. Here then the Minsk Agreement will be observed.

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    And at the same time the West on behalf of the USA supplies with the equipment Ukraine. Which, just, constantly violates the Minsk Agreement...

    Conclusion &#8212; the West isn't interested in the world in Ukraine. And it is interested only in accusation of Russia by all means.
     

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