More guns - a safer USA

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by FrankCapua, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    What do you want me to do post the whole funkiness article? Get over yourself.
    Yes you obviously read it. Hence why I didn't post the entire ducking article and instead linked the source.

    Well gosh I guess we can't use any survey then including the census. Hey wait.... didn't you misuse the census earlier because you can't do division?

    It's set in a range from the available data. Why don't you go cook some up if you're so worried about it?

    What's that? A normal citizen doesn't know legalese? What a bunch of dumb (*)(*)(*)(*)s. I mean it's not like you have to have a doctorate degree to practice law or anything like that. It's common knowledge!!
    Surveys of detainees. You're interviewing people who got shot and went to the hospital where they were then arrested and pointing to that as proof positive that criminals always go to a hospital when shot? And you're criticizing MY evidence? :roflol:
     
  2. FrankCapua

    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not necessarily, but I do doubt that you associate with many conservatives.
     
  3. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    but but but .....all conservatives are guilty of being gun lovers, merely because they are conservatives... what a crock. good point!
     
  4. DentalFloss

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    And if I had tits, I'd be a girl.
     
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  5. Texan

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    I am so not gonna touch that one.
     
  6. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Brilliant analogy. :roll:
     
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    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    It actually is. The chances of making every existing weapon disappear is actually LESS than my chances of growing tits.
     
  8. Logician0311

    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    And what does that have to do with the number of households I posted (and linked)?

    Flamebait does nothing to lend your position credibility.
     
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    Logician0311 Well-Known Member

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    Your assumptions have little bearing on fact.
     
  10. Clem

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    SACO, Maine (AP) — A family of five, including three children ranging in age from 4 to 12 years old, were found shot to death Sunday inside a southern Maine apartment, authorities said.
     
  11. Texan

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    Would it have been any better if they had done an Andrea Yates thing or drove them all off a cliff? Murder is murder and it's still wrong with the same result.
     
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    Guns in the home in the US are five times more likely to kill a member living in the household (either accidently or otherwise) than they are an intruder

    In the US you are around 30 times more likely to be shot than you are in the UK

    It took 10 years to reach 58,000 dead in Vietnam leading to widespread protests and disengagement from the conflict. The domestic firearms deaths surpass that figure every 2 years without comment.

    More children in the US under the age of 15 are likely to die from gunfire than cancer

    Given these sorts of statistics by what possible definition of the word can it be said that guns are making you safer ?
     
  13. Texan

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    http://home.comcast.net/~shooter2_indy/essays/paulharvey.html

    Even if the figure is half right, 56,000,000 people killed by their own governments after strict gun control and confiscation in the 20th Century is a pretty good indication that guns keep the people more safe. Otherwise, governments wouldn't take them before exterminating their subjects that do not support them. This doesn't even address the untold number of people who are protected from crime by their guns.

    You can point to Canada all day long and I can point to Mexico just as easily. Mexicans are unarmed and stuck between the military and the cartels. I'll take responsibility for the safety of my family.
     
  14. Reality

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    a 3rd of the nation (ie Population) is not a 3rd of the "households". Those are 2 different numbers. The information about gun ownership is 1/3 of the population, not the households.
     
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    So you have guns to shoot your government ? In a democracy ? Don't you think they might outgun you ?

    According to your FBI figures in 2010 287 people were killed in defensive legal homicides by private citizens. In that same year 15,572 under 15s were killed or injured by firearms. What kind of protection does this represent ?

    Even given that statistically your family is now 5 times more likely at risk of death by the very gun (s) you keep for their defence ?
     
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    I understand the gun control posts on this site. These people are trying to save lives.

    I don't understand the energy, the preponderance of statistics sited by the gun advocates, the passion and aggression displayed by these people, and the time that it takes to defend their untenable, indefensible stance...I don't understand it...they will say liberty, freedom are at stake...the 2nd amendment...on and on...

    But they have their guns...even though children are being murdered every day because of the freedoms these people insist upon...their liberty and freedom to own guns kill more children every day....

    But, they are not attempting to save lives by the constant posting of their right to own guns....and yet they spend all that energy and time on this site....

    They have their guns....why are they so passionate to defend that right....they have their guns....why do they not simply go and live their lives....the NRA will continue their control of the gun issues ...children will continue to die...isn't that what the proponents of more guns, more guns....want? Well, they have that.... ...go have a hamburger, oil their guns, pet the cat....children's lives are threatened......your guns are not.....you may, if you choose, relax a bit....
     
  17. Texan

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    All I want are my stated Constitutional rights. I'll gladly accept the responsibilities that go with them.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    trolling again?
     
  19. Clem

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    Thanks stjames53 for quoting my post...the more people that see it...the better!

    I'm going to do the same for you....'trolling again'...mine and yours....incredible substance...
     
  20. Texan

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    ...............................................
     
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    exacrly.......................now we can both ignore him
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually you can grow tits rather easily with the right hormone injections or so i'm told.
     
  23. Logician0311

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    Comparing the US to third-world countries is intellectually dishonest, at best.
    Given that our leaders are democratically elected, they have the support of the majority of citizens. What motive would they have to literally wage war against these same people?
     
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    And the tens of thousands of entirely preventable deaths annually that accrue from that ?

    I suspect the victims of that and their families feel somewhat differently about such alleged 'freedoms'
     
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    Please ignore me....stjames53 and Texan...please ignore me....and, stjames53, if you aim your gun the same way you spell.....(exacerly?) we're all in trouble.....
     

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