more 'tolerant' feminists

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nice job baiting.
     
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    At least the Nazis were consistent throughout every day of the month, and they didn`t get cranky at jokes like............

    Q. What have Nazis & dog doo doo got in common?
    A. As they get older, they get easier to pick up.
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Feminism is about 100% equality for women.

    sorry if that bugs ya
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Surely you understand that feminism is about equal OPPORTUNITY, not about making men and women the same. Every man and woman should be accorded equal OPPORTUNITY, that does not make every person equal to every other person. If women are finally taking advantage of opportunities available, good for them; if some men are failing to take advantage of opportunities, that's on them.
     
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    Feminism is about equal pay and respect for equal capabilities.

    Men and Women are NOT EQUAL....as I cannot give birth and have a child like a woman can I am NOT her equal.

    At the same time a somewhat more useless ability of mine....I can bench press over 300 lbs and leg press 1080 lbs...something a woman is not going to be able to do...BUT SO WHAT!!???

    I have always noticed that it is the most weak and pathetically out of shape males who are protesting so hard over Feminism....most likely these guy's are afraid these Feminist Women can KICK THEIR ASSES! LOL!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    The proof is in the ' instant ' pudding! When women were home with the family we had a much safer nation. Now the youth have gone wild and immature.

    Kids had a better future to look forward to. Now the young and old are raised and cared for by strangers. We throw our elders in institutional prisons where they are drugged till they die. Our kids and parents are taken care of by low income people .

    All so women could work for another man instead of the one at home. More violence ,rape and other crimes against women now than ever before. The whole nation is on Prozac and the kids on sit down and shut the hell up drugs.

    Yea you fems really did a number on this nation. From the bedrooms to the boardrooms;from PTA to CEO. And what did that really get us?
     
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    Safer for who?

    Do you know up until a short time ago it was not considered possible for a man to brutally rape his wife?

    Children were often sent to seminary schools where they would become sexually abused.

    Beating up a Black Man was considered no big deal....and a whole lot of other nasty things went on in the past.

    Being the Alpha Male I am I find it disturbing in the extreme that any man would want a woman as a girl he could control at will...have her do as she was told....and if she didn't a good beating would result.

    I prefer to have a woman who is my best friend...be highly intelligent and physically strong and physically beautiful and never have to worry about what any man would say about her because if they were rude...between the two of us we would kick their ass!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Different means unequal ?
     
  9. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    in housing, employment, education.....women should be treated equally.

    that is Feminism.
     
  10. ryobi

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    So, surely you must believe men should get affirmitive action today since women are achieving more in secondary education than men just like women got affirmitive action back in the day when men were achieving more in secondary education than women-right???
     
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    ...and feminists believe women should be treated equally in the justice system too-right Ronstar??? Because women recieve 63% lighter sentences than men and that's after being 20 times less likely to even be prosecuted in the first place. So, surely feminism is also about being treated equally in the justice system too-right Ronstar??? I mean surely feminists are against this inequality and they're working to get women prosecuted to the same extent men are and once they're prosecuted surely feminists are working to get women sentenced to the same extent men are-right??? I mean you said yourself, "women should be treated equally,"-right???


    Estimating Gender Disparities in Federal Criminal Cases


    Sonja B. Starr

    University of Michigan Law School

    August 29, 2012

    University of Michigan Law and Economics Research Paper, No. 12-018

    Abstract:
    This paper assesses gender disparities in federal criminal cases. It finds large gender gaps favoring women throughout the sentence length distribution (averaging over 60%), conditional on arrest offense, criminal history, and other pre-charge observables. Female arrestees are also significantly likelier to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted. Prior studies have reported much smaller sentence gaps because they have ignored the role of charging, plea-bargaining, and sentencing fact-finding in producing sentences. Most studies control for endogenous severity measures that result from these earlier discretionary processes and use samples that have been winnowed by them. I avoid these problems by using a linked dataset tracing cases from arrest through sentencing. Using decomposition methods, I show that most sentence disparity arises from decisions at the earlier stages, and use the rich data to investigate causal theories for these gender gaps.

    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002
     
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    a lot of misogyny in this thread.
     
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    The purpose of affirmative action is to afford equal OPPORTUNITY to those who are disadvantaged because they have been denied that equal opportunity in the past. If men are not achieving success in post-secondary education it is not from lack of opportunity.
     
  14. ryobi

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    That's rich.

    LOL :eyepopping:
     
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    So you're one of those people who believes people alive today should be punished for what other people did in the past before they were born because they're the same gender-eh???
     
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    Men and Women are a lot less different than most people think.

    Our bodies are very similar as we both have two arms and two legs and a head with two eyes and two ears and both men and women have nipples and a even a woman's clitoris is just a differently designed cover of a urethra.

    So men and woman have many more things in common than we do have things that are different.

    As far as equality....there are many things that women are much more capable than men and there are things men are more capable than women I would have to say as far as I can see the WOMEN HAVE the edge.

    The concepts and ideas of some men who have NEVER been in a combat survival situation and yet such men have the AUDACITY to make such statements saying that ONLY MEN can be trusted to handle such physical and emotional stress and that the average women would fall apart.....well....BULL S#!$!

    I am the POSTER CHILD of finding myself in such situations and some of the bravest people I have EVER dealt with in such a situation have been WOMEN.

    Now....not taking my Team or Myself into the equation as we are highly trained experiences Top of the FOOD CHAIN individuals known in such circles as HAMMERS....as to a HAMMER....everything else looks like a NAIL.

    But on average the WOMEN that we have been sent to extract or have some how found themselves to be in the thick of thinks....were not screaming or hysterical or crying but had a very cool and collective understanding come over them and I would tell them and they UNDERSTOOD AND ACCEPTED what I was saying when I said...."You are in the second to worse possible situation you could be in and the ONLY reason this is not the #1 WORSE SITUATION YOU COULD BE IN IS BECAUSE I AND MY TEAM ARE HERE.

    Still....and I will say to the ladies....you chances of getting out of here alive as SLIM....but I can show you a way to increase your odds from SLIM....to POSSIBLE. They would all ask how?

    I would tell them....you MUST come to the realization that at this point you are ALREADY DEAD. There is no getting out and there is no going home and the more you worry about such things you will allow fear and indecision to cloud your mind and YOU WILL then do the wrong thing which will lead to your death.

    So...from this point on YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD. NOTHING CAN HARM YOU....YOU ARE NOT AFRAID OF ANYTHING BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO FEAR.....and you will move quickly and quietly without fear or hesitation and you will do EXACTLY what I say and when I say it.

    And if you do all these things and come to terms you are just not getting out of here....perhaps a MIRACLE will happen and you will not make it but maybe you can help send one of these KIDS that make up my Team back home to see his wife or Parents or Girlfriend.

    When I use this same type of Mortal Psychology upon men who are not trained they just CANNOT COME TO TERMS with the part when I tell them...."And if you do all these things and come to terms you are just not getting out of here....perhaps a MIRACLE will happen and you will not make it but maybe you can help send one of these KIDS that make up my Team back home to see his wife or Parents or Girlfriend."....THE MEN CANNOT HANDLE THIS....BUT THE WOMEN CAN.

    And because the WOMEN can come to terms with DEATH....they have no fear and 8 ot of 10 times they make it out.

    The untrained Men....USUALLY POLITICIANS....6 out of 10 make it out.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Are you Chuck Norris???
     
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    It looks like you missed my question Ronstar. As someone who's interested in inequalities facing women, I'm sure your keen on addressing one! So I'm posting it again for you.

    You're Welcome.
     
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    Out of all the Hollywood Action Stars you could have chosen you happened to pick the ONLY ONE who actually has won Martial Art Tournaments....as Chuck Norris is the read deal although he is not a member of Special Forces.

    Another Hollywood Star who was the real deal and still do this day over 72 missions he was involved in sill hold a Classified Secret or Top-Secret designation is Jessie Ventura.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Making sure people get equal opportunity regardless of gender has nothing to do with punishing anyone. Are you one of those people who believes giving women an equal chance means taking something away from men?
     
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    If two people are applying for a job and one is a man and the other is a woman and the woman gets the job because of affirmitive action then yes sexist laws such as affirmitive action take opportunities away from men.

    Opportunities should be based on merit. They should not be based on gender or race. Affirmitive action is racist and sexist because it's giving someone an advantage over someone else based on nothing but their gender and race.

    As an egalitarean, I believe inequality is wrong when the inequality is a result of discrimination, and affirmitive action is discrimination.
     
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    The problem is if affirmative action did not exists....and I don't like it either....some companies would not hire blacks or women or Hispanics at all!!

    Men have it REAL GOOD.

    The number of good things we enjoy when compared to the very few in number issues such as the one you brought up....can hardly be said to even be an issue.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Therefore, if a man was denied an opportunity as a result of affirmitive action shouldn't he then be a recipient of affirmitive action??? I mean the man was disadvantaged because he was denied an equal opportunity in the past-right???
     
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    So those women were justified physically and sexually assaulting those men peacefully and passively protecting that church because they may have been victims of violence themselves??? Do you also think the Nazis were justified killing 7 million defenseless jews because some jewish industrialist may have intentionally perpetuated WWI to make more profits and as a result many german soldiers died???
     
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    The MAN...if he is a MAN...not a man....is not going to have a hard time finding another job....however the Woman does not have such opportunities handed her way often.

    I don't understand why some men see Feminists as the enemy....they are NOT and I am a FEMINIST.

    Sure...I have run into overly militant Female Feminists who because of their just terrible experiences with men are bitter and tend to come off as Man Haters....but they are not Man Haters as what they truly are is MEN WHO ACT VINDICTIVE LIKE LITTLE BOY HATTERS!!!

    Maybe it's just me but within a very short period of time I will watch such supposed Man Haters quickly soften as they really don't want to be labeled as Man Hatters as all a guy has to say is they both admire and respect their positions and say as a Man you think a Woman SHOULD get fair pay and respect for doing a JOB just as well as any Man could.

    I have melted such hard women more times than I can count and I was telling them the truth every time as if I was them I would be upset as well.

    AboveAlpha
     

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