Most American's supported Trump. The popular vote is wrong.

Oh geeze, the old Mesmer nonsense. Care to try a rational discourse.

 

No I don't defend it. It was incredibly stupid since he could have just hired a hooker for the same service. But at least Clinton didn't actually brag about sexually assaulting women. Both are flawed humans but Trump is a genuine sleeze ball.

 

You can all believe what you want. I never said or implied Latino's are not American's and I never said thier vote does not count. I work with Latino's every day and they are great people and very hard workers.

My OP clearly stated that Hillary did poorly on every level with every race but Latino's and most of them probably did not like her. Yes there was Trump voters that did not like Trump but that number is probably not as big as the people who can't stand Hillary. You all brag about her having 3 million more votes but those votes do not really reflect what happened.

Recap: Hillary had 3 million more votes but still lost the popular vote. Why?

There was 50 individual popular votes. Hillary won 20. Donald won 30.
With all of the counties added up Hillary won less than 500. Donald won more than 2,000.

Trump won 30 of the popular votes clearly making him the winner of the popular vote. It's not that hard to understand. I'm not racist but nice try.
The Democrats were soundly beaten by the EC and the popular vote. Anybody that claims he lost due to the popular vote is ignoring the 30 states that voted for him.

Let's not forget Trump took 220 counties that Obama had and some of those had been Democratic strongholds for more than 40 years. That is kind of sad for Democrats.

 

So making a stupid braggadocios statement tenyears before becoming president makes Trump a sleeze ball but Clinton getting head in the oval office by a twenty year old intern and moisturizing cigars in her (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) is not so bad. Got it.

 

If you want to have "rational" discourse, don't state that a 20 year old intern took the lead and seduced Clinton, who already had a well documented history of keeping mistresses and otherwise chasing skirts with reckless abandon. All of which happening without women marching in protest and leftists in general burying their heads in the sand.

The hypocrisy of the contrast is the rational discourse you should be pursuing.

 

Theres a difference between saying you did something you didnt and not doing something you promised so no I didnt

 

All you have is Trump joking about groping women while Slick Willy actually did it and claims he didnt. I did not have sexual relations with that woman

 

You'd be wrong the guy you're talking about just left the White House...

 

Did the man-child Trump resign already? I gave him 3 years or so for resignation or impeachment.....

 

Wrong man child

 

No different than the "vast right" who ignored Trump's corruption and sleazy behavior all while chanting "crooked Hillary!", and "lock her up!" at Trump's rallies.

I don't disagree.

 

How about the left ignoring Bill Ayers and Rev Wright and any number of shady characters Obama hung out with

 

Trump was a private citizen and Hillary was a professional politician. Fair or not, Hillary was bound to the public trust for maintaining the highest ethical conduct. She violated that trust in too many ways already documented ad nauseum. I think most Trump supporters fully understood Trump's flaws. They just believe he can make things better in a way that Hillary (and the Democrats) are incapable of. Conservatives want action -- they're sick and tired of identity politics, and the left's fruitless attempts at social reengineering. They want a POTUS who will seriously deal with the economy, jobs, and foreign policy. Knock on wood, but Trump is on the right track so far.

 

And the excuses continue to roll...

you can't whine about hypocrisy while engaging in it yourself...

 

What did you mean then? Can you put it in different words?

 

I'll take an ineffective crook over an unhinged, hyper-narcissistic would-be despot who eyes war, nuclear weapons, and torture, as positives, any day.

It reminds me of Mathew 7:4-5

 

What excuses?? I make no excuses for Trump's personal conduct, although much of it is conjecture that nobody knows for sure. You might not like that Trump paid as little tax as legally possible, and probably gave a pittance to charity, but guess what. That's what most Americans do. His sex life is his business, and if he screwed around while he was married, that's between him and his wife. I'm not going to legitimize leftist mud throwing about working with the Russians to rig the election. The only "rigging" we know about for sure is that the DNC did everything they could to subversively screw Bernie, and they succeeded.

Like it or not, all you offered up was an ineffective and recycled politician, Miss Hillary. The FBI concluded Hillary and her circle were "extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information". I'm going to run from a high level official capable of that all day. Especially since he mostly let her off the hook for lacking the sophistication to understand what she's doing. Sorry, we've been through this before. Hillary was a non-starter. Trying to constantly discredit Trump is old news.