Mueller ‘pitbull’ Weissmann let slip they were trying to oust Trump by setting a perjury trap

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  1. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Because he was working for the CIA! Clapper and Brennan knew it and they still let the FISA go through. They let it go through and failed to mention it intentionally because was the perfect target to get a warrant and to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Administration. Mueller knew it to and should have shut down the entire "Russian Collusion Hoax" but he let it go because they were looking to oust Trump from office.

    It was a coup attempt.

    But Page was working with the CIA.
     
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    I know people get their talking points that mirror what was said in the past :p
     
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    Lol deep state deep state illuminati!
     
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    IOW, if he lies under oath, he may be prosecuted for perjury, but if he's not under oath, he can get away with it.
     
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    Twump’s handlers know how to manipulate hearings
     
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    So there is a conspiracy?

    Oh and Twump? Is this baby talk?
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Yeah, a simple procedural lie.
     
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    What's a "procedural lie?"
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Accidentally getting a date, time, name, etc. mixed up because it was years ago that a particular incident happened.
     
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    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Better to say "I don't remember." But, those types of errors can generally be corrected, with "I had forgotten." Sondland, for instance, came back to correct prior testimony.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Or plead the fifth like numerous Obama officials did...

    Pleading the Fifth: A congressional ritual for senior feds in times of scandal
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...h-a-congressional-ritual-in-times-of-scandal/
    So, did Sondland lie under oath the first time or did Sondland lie under oath the second time?
     
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    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    It's disingenuous to say they're blocking witnesses. If Democrats were amendable to the witnesses the Trump team wanted to call forth, you'd get all of the witnesses you'd want. Of course, that's an obvious fact to point out.
     
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    Have to compare testimonies. Not sure...but I thought he "remembered" a meeting he hadn't testified to in his first testimony and confirmed what another witness had said regarding him in his "correction" testimony. He's not being prosecuted for perjury, so I assume they accepted his "correction." What contradiction are you referencing?
     
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    Alright. They are blocking Witnesses who can testify on the facts of the case in front of them. The Reps want to muddy the waters by diverting the issue to make it about Biden when it's not. If Biden was engaged in shady dealings in the Ukraine (something that I wouldn't be surprised about), then that can be a 'separate' investigation wholly disconnected from the Trump issue. But conflating the two only clouds both issues and assures neither will have a satisfactory ending.
     
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    Remembering something?

    Like remembering something that Ukraine said did not happened?

    Sondland changes testimony, acknowledges delivering quid pro quo message to Ukraine
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...ivering-quid-pro-quo-message-ukraine-n1076736

    Top Zelensky aide refutes Sondland testimony
    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/473875-top-zelensky-aide-refutes-sondland-testimony

    Once again, did Sondland lie under oath the first time or did Sondland lie under oath the second time.

    Think carefully before you respond.
     
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    The Democrat controlled house had 17 witnesses. All 17 witnesses were supposed to be "bombshell" witnesses that showed "overwhelming" evidence.

    Why do we need more witnesses?
     
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    After his wifes hotels were being protested.. funny that.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/people-are-absolutely-trashing-gordon-sondlands-hotels-on-yelp

    For example

    https://www.facebook.com/events/2500529473562458/

    or

    https://www.opb.org/news/article/gordon-sondland-hotel-boycott-blumenauer/
     
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    Because it's always better to have 100% certainty then 95%. that 5% gives those who want to see the thing fail room to manipulate and obfuscate.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Too bad. The Democrat witch hunt freak show went on long enough.
     
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    It's DERP State, Chuckles, and there's nothing funny about federal officials illegally spying on Americans.

    What is funny is how you all have changed your tune since Watergate and the passage of the Patriot Act. So much for the Left's phony principles and pretenses...

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    So I looked into it.

    https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12...-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/
    (this link has a screenshot of the document. It's pretty big so i'll use another link below that details it in text for easy copy/paste)

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...-page-was-‘operational-contact’-cia-‘positive

    Ok, so you are correct. Carter Page worked for the CIA from 2008-2013

    Huh. But... wait.

    The First FISA application against Carter was in 2014.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ter-page-under-fisa-warrant-since-2014-report

    So he lived in lived and worked in Moscow from 03-07, becomes a CIA asset from 08-13, has an FBI FISA warrant approved on him from 2014 till who knows (even though the Feds knew he worked for the CIA as well), and then the 2016 FISA's start up.

    This is....not a full and clear picture of WTH he is doing and where his allegiances lie. I look forward to finding out all the answers in 40 years lol
     
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    lol. Good comeback.
     
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    Left-wingers want this charade to go on forever just to tarnish the President.

    The Democrats can go pound sand!!!!
     
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    Seems you have chosen to believe Yermak versus Sondland. Yermak wasn't under oath. Sondland was. The Ukrainians presumably have zero incentive to anger President Trump. On the other hand, why would Sondland, who was/is a supporter of Trump lie? And, if he did lie, did he also lie about the President's "no quid pro quo" statement on his earlier phone call?
     
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    Just because someone isn't under oath doesn't make what they say false.

    And just because someone is under oath doesn't make what they say true. Just ask Bill Clinton.

    So, stop with this under oath crap. It doesn't mean diddly squat.
     

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