Mueller ‘pitbull’ Weissmann let slip they were trying to oust Trump by setting a perjury trap

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  1. stone6

    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IMO, the Steele Dossier was always the Republican "red herring" because it could be traced back to Clinton campaign funding. My understanding was that an original Page surveillance warrant was turned down by the FISA Court. A PORTION of the Steele Dossier then corroborated information in the original application regarding Page-Russian contacts, which was deemed sufficient for the Court to issue the warrant, which was subsequently renewed several times.
     
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    Good!

    Looking forward to ALL charges being dropped.
     
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    The 2014 was prior to the Steele Dossier. The first FISA was also prior to the Steele Dossier. The renewals used portions of it, and i'm very curious to here what info was used by the DOJ to say that 2 were invalid (though they don't say 'Which' 2. Funny that. Gotta keep the confusion going)

    Your right though, it was a massive red herring (as are most, if not all the Republican Defenses of this crap)
     
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    OK...you're referencing the Horowitz Report? My impression was there was nothing of substance in the report. There were errors made that shouldn't have happened, but they were more procedural, with one back-dating, possibly to meet a deadline.
     
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    What? Horowitz admitted that fraudulent evidence was submitted to the FISA court and that exculpatory evidence was altered by the FBI. It validated the Nunes Memo. Horowitz said he got no satisfactory explanations as to why all the 'mistakes' went against Trump, and said he could not rule out political bias.
     
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    Yes, that was the one. There were 17 'mistakes' through all 4 FISA's. Each FISA is something like 100 pages. The first one had 6, the others split the other 11. The material aspects didn't change and this is basically them trying to use these as a hook to somehow say the whole thing is fake. Which is BS and a distraction.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    He said he didn't find political bias.
     
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    Page 411 of the Horowitz Report: "We did not find any documentation or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI's decision to conduct these operations."
     
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    I found plenty of political bias in Strzok's and Page's text messages.
     
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    Then, you should send it to Horowitz and tell him he misinterpreted it.
     
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    Misinterpreted? More like ignored them as being evidence.
     
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    Well...you know...he's probably just another member of the Deep State conspiring against Trump and all of his supporters. Don't you think?
     
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    We have no idea if that is accurate, though. Especially because it was reported to be 2013. That tidbit came from a CNN report in 2017 and it has never been confirmed. The first known FISA is October 2016.

    You also have to go to the FISA courts every 90 days to keep them current.... Did they issue one and let it lapse and if so, why? Or, did they just renew every 90 days? If so, where are those FISA warrants?

    Honestly, I think CNN made it up or was tipped off that a 2013 FISA was issued because Carter was contacted and attempted to be recruited by Russian agents. Which would be weird as he was with the CIA at that time and would be in direct contact with his handlers.

    The first link is a good read on the subject:

    https://www.justsecurity.org/59837/reports-carter-page-subject-fisa-warrant-2013-2014/

    https://lawandcrime.com/analysis/ca...en-subject-to-fisa-warrants-as-early-as-2013/

    We are going to learn a lot more about this in the next few months.
     

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