New Jersey professor responds to backlash after ‘F--- each and every Trump supporter’ comment

Yes I know. Hence why I'm abstracting the issue to a base camp. Instead of arguing what was said, argue the meta reasoning about punishments. That way we can figure out what the core issue is, so we can compare and contrast cases.

Knock knock, this is PF. No offense but I've seen worse spouted on this forum for years, and the replies to this thread seem to communicate being butthurt over anything else. To be honest, if you really just want to argue what she said I'm going to tell you to get over it. It's not that bad. For conservatives who pretend to be tough, they're whiners at heart who can't take any criticism. All she's saying from the tweets is white people need to stop abusing racial minorities. White people aren't going to be facing the same issues as black people. They don't pay the same costs. So when white people say to open up, they're really saying "I don't pay the costs, and I don't care about black people who pay the costs, so die". The point is empathy. That frustration with her tweets? That's what she is trying to communicate. She wants you to empathize with her plight and to realize that. When you realize the pain you're causing, you start taking the steps to healing the pain. In of itself, that's not a controversial statement. It's just one making you think.

These whataboutisms are the core issue-what is acceptable speech for outside the work place? All I'm saying is we need freedom of speech to protect against institutional (business) abuse. You don't have an answer to that, other than "No bad speech about work".

 

I would start yelling at them to leave. I certainly wouldn't tolerate their presence. I wouldn't protest with them. I wouldn't hang around while they chanted "Jews will not replace us". And of course that's not what happened at Charoletsville. It was a planned confederate statue nonsense rally by a bunch of racists (Unite the Right) and that's what you got: "Jews will not replace us". And a "fine person" who murdered a woman with his car.

So yeah, if people were still hanging around after the "Jews will not replace us" chant, I hope they got doxxed and fired. And I think a few of them did. There was one memorable clip Young Turks played of this pathetic crying Nazi.

 

Instead of you proving that she does discriminate, or that there actually exists a 'hostile environment', you want someone to prove that there are now and never will be a trump supporter that comes to her class, all based on the existence of these tweets outside of the professional setting, outside of class.

I think you have this backwards. I also don't think you understand what constitutes a 'hostile environment' or where it matters and where it does not. Its tweets on her personal time. She is not a politician and she should not have to worry about censuring her political views off work, especially because she got hired to express her views in class. If you have evidence of her mistreating students, or discriminating in her grading or treatment of students in class based on their political views, produce it.

 

Yes!!! Jews are untouchable!! If you even say anything negative you will be doxxed and fired!!

 

So if the agent provacateurs chant about Jews, then you'll leave and let them take over the narrative.

 

Is that what you'd say if it was a white prof tweeting about how black people are responsible for the Cvirus?

 

You are talking to the wrong guy here. Son of former tenured law professor here. I am a strong advocate for hiring professors with a wide array of political, cultural and economic viewpoints and using Adjunct professors and guest speakers, etc to fill in the gaps in smaller colleges and smaller faculty positions. In other words, you should not worry about this woman, as long as the university searches for ways to get some ideological balance. Her students may have Professor Ann Coulter two doors down. Heck, you have no idea what efforts Prof. Cooper. might make in her own classroom to offer ideological balance in reading material, guest speakers etc.

I remember my first experience with a REAL socialist professor teaching a Global politics class in a very small campus. There was only three total faculty teaching political science. She was waywas to my left. One of those everything can be explained by international corporation conspiracy types. I was incredibly frustrated because I was a true blue patriotic American Hubert Humphrey liberal and I got so pissed. I had never really dealt with one of real socialists. Her texts were biased, her ideas were biased, her lectures were biased.

And I realized that
A. no damage was done to my soul or ideas by having to learn from her. My views were not changed because I was an adult with very strong opinions, and I could handle this just fine without acting like a snowflake.
B. the guest speakers in her class, were actual counterpoints differing from her, leading to great debates when they came in
C. She was inviting of disagreement and gave me a great grade.
D. the two other faculty offered balance in perspective. One was 'bias free', the other was conservative.
E. I was incredibly prepared throughout my upbringing to handle RW arguments but woefully unprepared to handle leftwing attacks on liberalism.

F. I learned a hell of a lot for Professor Socialist and her theories despite my constant irritation. She knew what she was doing, and it was more than being a propaganda mouthpiece for anyone. This was exactly the class I needed to grow stronger in my liberalism, and still see a much broader ideological perspective.


Let Cooper be Cooper, unless you have students with solid evidence that she is discriminating against students based on their ideology. Hopefully the university looks for ways to provide balance in its curriculum.

 

So... yes?

 

Wow. Really? I am just going to let you take your favorite guess on your original question to me. In the end you will believe what you want.

 

So... no?

I'll go with whatever you tell me, as I have nothing else to go by. Its why I asked the question.

 

I personally don't give a rats ass what a professor 'tweets' outside of class. Students in the class have a grievance procedure they can follow, and the rest can sign a petition or 'protest' to the administrator. But if I am a dean or President, I intend to support academic freedom and that means leaving professors to express their political views in or out of the class, as much as I am able, so that their students are exposed to a broad spectrum even if they get offended in the process. .

 

So that is a yes!

...right?

 

( you can interchange races however you like) Here's what I would do if I were the dean and was hearing a lot of complaints by her students based on those tweets. I would talk to professor as a professional colleague and mentor , and let her know that these tweets were calling into question how she was being perceived by some of her actual students, and make the argument that that the new perception, may make her less effective a professor that she may otherwise assume. I'd argue that how she makes her points, can sometimes impact whether people listen to them at all. Its about advice on being more effective in the classroom, rather than censoring her politics. And then I would shut the hell up and let her alone if possible.

 

Depends on the state, employer & so on.

 

What the university would be wise to do depends on stated policies & handling of similar past incidents as well as other factors such as her prior history.

They've already lost millions and a ton of prestige, so keeping this in the spotlight by seeing her sue them for unfair dismissal is not a viable option.

 

Only a Nazi would protest the removal of precious & irreplaceable publicly displayed art.

 

It's actually MUCH more complicated.

I think Rutgers will do what takes the spotlight off them the quickest & avoids any lawsuits.

But this has cost them dearly - incalculably - so I see new social media conduct guidelines at the very least in their future.

 

MoPa: Gets it

 

So you honestly believe this piece of trash will give the same treatment to a white student wearing a trump hat every day as she would a black student with an obama hat?

Get serious

 

Some good comments, and good to see you understand how much the left despises liberals; the conflation of the two VERY different groups is bizarre.

 

If I made such statements online or to my customers I would not be surprised at all if my employer fired me and I would have no recourse.

 

Ann Coulter has been BANNED from college campuses for her political views.
This associate professor wasn't discussing academics.

 

You got a problem with Jews or something? People who go around chanting "Jews will not replace us" of course get fired. What did you think would happen? If you're openly anti-semitic and racist, people will shun you, including your boss and coworkers.

 

It is quite clear what she said no matter how you try to sugarcoat it, it is vile and despicable. And again not a free speech issue. She is free to say it no one can stop her, but no one has to employ someone who shouts to the world such vile and despicable statements.

And "get over it" all you're left with........not much then.