New study confirms the oceans are warming rapidly

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  1. dbldrew

    dbldrew Well-Known Member

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    that report was from NASA..
     
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    once again, i showed what nasa says, you linked to 'russia times'

    those are facts

     
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    "Glaciers are still melting, but climate change is having an unexpected effect on sea levels, NASA has found. Satellites show 3.2 trillion tons of water has been stored on land over the past decade, slowing the pace of rising sea levels by 20 percent.
    Never before has the climate and weather-driven impact on water storage been so accurately studied. With the help of two satellites, the University of California at Irvine and NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) determined that through lakes, aquifers, and other routes, land is practically soaking up the liquid like a giant sponge."
     
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    what a joke, no link to the source

     
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    Awesome, now I can go swimming year round.
     
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    And you can have that beach front property in atlanta!
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Make sure you speculate early.
     
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  10. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    the world is acting together to mitigate global warming's effects

    of course, republicans can't admit that or contribute in any meaningful way

    most of them are doing just the opposite and denying reality, like they so often do

     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Why? What "effects" are you referring to? Perhaps you could identify something tangible we could discuss.
     
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    That reality-denying tag belongs to democrats. Hillary, Obama, House, Senate...look closely and observe the commonality among them.

    HINT: Losers.
     
  13. dujac

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    why? because some people have consciences and understand how to think logically

    1. More heat melts ice, worsens weather and expands oceans


    Ninety percent of natural disasters are weather related, the United Nations reports.
    These are some high-profile examples of how the extra warmth changes climate conditions and weather patterns:

    • The cryosphere – the frozen water on Earth – is melting. A warmer atmosphere causes the planet's snowpack, glaciers and sea and freshwater ice to melt rapidly. Melting glaciers and polar ice sheets contribute to unprecedented sea level rise. Melting sea ice exposes darker ocean waters, which absorb more sunlight than ice – heating the ocean more and triggering a relentless cycle of melting and heating.
    • Weather is getting more extreme. Heatwaves are more frequent worldwide. The increased evaporation of water is like fuel for storms, exacerbating extreme weather events, such as hurricanes. Rising sea levels make storm surges capable of much greater damage. In more naturally arid areas, droughts and wildfires intensify.
    • The oceans are getting hotter, expanding and becoming more acidic. They are getting hotter because they absorb 90 percent of the extra heat in the climate. This shift causes the oceans to expand, contributing to higher sea levels, and strips corals of their vivid colors. Meanwhile, nearly a third of carbon dioxide emissions end up in the oceans, triggering a chemistry change that makes the water more acidic, dissolving the shells of sea creatures. The ocean is almost 40 percent more acidic than it used to be.

    2. Human life and prosperity suffer as the climate shifts

    Aissata Abdoul Diop of Mauritania, in west Africa, shows how corn has dried due to drought.
    Our health, economy, livelihoods, infrastructure and much more waver. Consider:

    • Climate change is a major threat to agriculture. Where, how and when we grow food is vitally connected to our climate's normal patterns. Worldwide, farmers are struggling to keep up with shifting weather patterns and increasingly unpredictable water supplies. Farms are more likely to face attacks from weeds, diseases and pests, which reduce yield.
    • Warmer, polluted air affects our health. A warmer atmosphere increases the formation of ground-level ozone – also known as smog – in polluted regions. Smog irritates lungs and triggers asthma attacks. Smoke from wildfires further degrades the air. Extreme summer heat means more deaths during heatwaves. Warmer freshwater makes it easier for disease-causing agents (such as bacteria) to grow and contaminate drinking water.
    • Infrastructure and transportation are at risk. Hot weather, flooding and other extreme weather events damage infrastructure, put heavy burdens on electrical supplies and disrupt how we travel and commute
    3. And natural habitats become hostile to plants and animals

    Climate change is threatening the sea ice where polar bears live.
    Habitats on land and in the sea are changing, making them inhospitable for some species, while letting others move in and take over. Some ecosystems are at risk of collapsing.

    The changes to the natural world are vast. Here are three well-documented examples:

    • The ice Arctic animals need is vanishing. As sea ice disappears, ice-dependent mammals such as walruses and polar bears struggle to survive. In 2008, the polar bear became the first animal to be added to the Endangered Species Act list of threatened species because of global warming.
    • Coral and shellfish are suffering. Coral reefs are highly sensitive to small changes in ocean temperatures. The heat stresses the algae that nourish the corals and provide their vibrant colors. The algae then leave, and the corals eventually starve – an event known as bleaching. As coral reefs are home to many other species, such as fish, their collapse would disrupt the entire ecosystem. Also, a more acidic ocean affects the normal calcium balance, meaning creatures with calcified shells, such as shellfish and coral, may not have enough calcium to grow.
    • Forests are more prone to deadly infestations. Milder winters and longer summers allow tree-killing insects to thrive. Meanwhile, trees weakened by prolonged drought have lower defense mechanisms. This cycle of warmer weather, weak trees and thriving insects is likely the culprit behind the massive die-off of 70,000 square miles of Rocky Mountain conifers.
    https://www.edf.org/climate/climate...MI-amiz8eV1QIVwo2zCh0OJAkAEAAYASAAEgJV1PD_BwE

     
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    Exactly my point. Nothing. Speculation, fear, an attempt at leverage, and nothing else. Of course, the world food production is up, no? Of course freezing to death is down, no? Your assertions are just speculation. You get that, right?
     
  15. dujac

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    what a joke, it really is amazing how gullible republican voters are

    crowd chants: 'lock her up'

    trumps says: "forget it, that plays great before the election

    now we don't care, right?"




    this graphic contains the facts, if you disagree, show me hillary's court records

    i can show you trump's

    upload_2017-7-19_9-41-26.png

     
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    you're in denial of reality

    really, learn how to think logically

     
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    Let us just take this as an example. This is an example of the stupid human trick. As in, some self absorbed do goober thought that Aspen needed to be beautified. Unfortunately, they didn't understand that their introduction of non native decorative plants also brought with them these pesky little insects that had no naturally occurring predator. They're called pine beetles. So, fast forward a couple of decades, do gooders figured out that these pesky little critters were killing trees. Billions of trees. And what did they advocate? Oh yeah. Doing nothing. They refused to allow folks to spray pesticides. They refused to allow loggers to remove the effected trees. And now, they've left millions of acres of dead dry kindling ready to ignite at the faintest hint of a spark.
    So spare me your "we're logical" garbage. It isn't flying today.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My family vacations on Cape Cod, Mass. The ocean temp where we stay is usually 69 or 70 degrees. That's nice, but a little cool.

    Maybe global warming will bump that up to a more perfect 73 or 74 degrees.
     
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    i trust science over politically-motivated lies

    "A recent study has determined that if global warming continues unchecked at its current projected pace, we could see nearly all needleleaf evergreen trees die in the Southwest U.S. within the next hundred years.

    The University of Delaware published its study, a product of five years of field research, today in the journal Nature Climate Change. The study projects a “72 percent loss of needleleaf evergreens by 2050” and “almost 100 percent by 2100” due to climate change.

    The study was led by Nate McDowell from the Los Alamos National Laboratory, who worked alongside 18 other researchers from universities and federal agencies, including the U.S. Geological Survey."

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncl...0r8=&tracking_referrer=www.huffingtonpost.com

     
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    Don't hold your breath. The amount of warming being discussed is only in the hundredths of a degree.....
     
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    You realize again, that what you've posted is a prediction, not a reality, right? So why not address the example of the tree kill in the rockies. We'll wait.
     
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    i realize that the prediction is based on science, facts, evidence and logic

     
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    And how many of these little predictions have not come to pass? I can recall the IPCC suggesting that all arctic ice would be gone by 2012 or so, and yet....

    The thing is, these conclusions are speculative at best. Given a whole host of variables that frankly the models that produce them are unable to differentiate out. And yet, for some, they become the scary monster you have to rail against. Yes, we get faith, and the illogic that it produces. Asking then, to be extended credibility because you've cited a fantasy doesn't then ascribe to you much credibility at all.

    I suppose you can explain how natural forrest maturation also doesn't explain this phenomenon..... We'll wait.
     
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    Damn.
     
  25. dujac

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    here's what gore said in 2009:

    “Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,”




    this graph shows the he was right to be concerned about arctic ice-melt

    upload_2017-7-19_10-18-33.png

    http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

     

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