NYC Police Commissioner Confirms Trump's Claims

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In the Twilight Zone.

 

LOL! There were media reports that also back him up. You just do not like to see the bogus claims against Trump debunked.....which they have.

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Do I need to feed you every bit of news that comes out? Use Google....

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I guess reality is the Twilight Zone for some.

 

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Excellent retort from a person who is clueless regarding the art of argumentation. In both legal and philosophical terms, a person making a claim has the "burden of proof." In this case, a claim is made regarding a poll. a person is justified in asking to see this poll. Considering people lie and make things up, that is a rational question to ask. Failure to directly provide such proof, negates any claim made....in other words, the person asking for proof can justifiably blow off anything the poster says.
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No there weren't. Glad we cleared that up.

There were not thousands of muslims celebrating in the streets of Jersey City. That is just (*)(*)(*)(*)ing insane.

 

Yeah, but he is a convicted felon that pleaded guilty on two counts. And yet, he is directly contradicting Rudy Giuliani who said that did not happen. I would go with Rudy on this one.

BTW, this is simply another example of the ends justify the means in an effort to use any and all "force" necessary from having the other side win. This is how American politics has de-evolved from a first class country into a third class country with us becoming Venezuela very soon.

 

So 8 men in an apartment who were connected to terrorist organizations=thousands of people publicly celebrating in the streets of Jersey City?

The media has looked harder. It didn't (*)(*)(*)(*)ing happen. If there were large celebrations that (*)(*)(*)(*) would be easy as hell to find and you know the Trump camp would have found it by now. It isn't real. It didn't happen.

 

The media was claiming zero....why would they lie?

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Common knowledge does not need proving. If I say the sky is blue do I need to prove it? No. Playing games is no way to debate.

 

If you read the book called The Terrorist Next Door, you would note that there was celebrating by right wing hate groups when the towers fell down. Most of these hate groups were conspiracy minded militia movements such as the Michigan Militia. But for Muslims in America, they were not celebrating in the streets in New Jersey or anywhere else here. There were Muslims who died as first responders and as occupants in the World Trade Center doing their work.

 

There were media reports. You just do not want to accept the truth. Saying there were no reports is insane.

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No there wasn't. Glad we cleared that up.

 

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In other words; you have no proof....more than likely, you made the whole thing up. Common knowledge is knowledge that is known by everyone or nearly everyone like the sun rises in the east. However, this unknown poll is not "Common Knowledge." You made up a fictitious poll with fictitious numbers and were caught red-handed in a lie. You have no credibility.

 

You need to stop looking at the world through a kaleidoscope. Fox news is desperately trying to prove Donald Trump's point that Muslims, no matter who they are or what they have done, are not to be trusted, always linked to terrorism or sympathize with terrorism, and other false narratives on his part. He is truly becoming a politician that will say and do anything to get elected by dangling the carrot to the uneducated masses who support him.

 

It's a poll. It is reported. Google is your friend.

 

Really, so the comm traffic reported by the Bush Administration is a lie by the Bush Administration?

 

That is quite a stretch. So you not only know what is true despite much evidence to the contrary you also know the motives behind Fox news.....kudos.

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Traffic report? What about the weather report?

 

You're right. No one said that there were no pockets of celebrations, but that there weren't "thousands and thousands" of people celebrating, a Trump quote the video leaves out.

 

Strange how Obama lies every day and Libs never question what he is saying or ask for proof. LOL

 

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Even if you double down on a lie, it's still a lie...ask Donald Trump.

 

What lie?

I have seen enough evidence to see this as what it is: media spin on behalf of those who are afraid of Trump. That includes Hillary who would lose to Trump according to some polls.

 

No more of a stretch than you defending Donald Trump on his initial claim that "thousands of Muslims were celebrating in the streets of New Jersey." Fox News is going after this story full force to prove. You had one Fox News Host defend Donald Trump's statements and other programs discussing the issue at hand. Keep in mind, this has not been the only time that Fox has defended Trump for his statements.

Comm traffic is a military slang to mean radio traffic, such as short hand radio, which is one of the methods used to communicate within the Militia movement. The slang is no longer used today, but it was common in the days of WW2, Korea, and Vietnam.

 

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I visited five different fact-check sources in regards to Trumps claim;

1) Polifact - Pants on Fire

2) Washington Post - False

3) Fact Check - False

4) Business Insider - False

5) Got News - True

Number 5 is a right leaning news blog and they base their finding on just one thing; a New York Times item that said this;

"Within hours of the terror attacks, F.B.I. agents hurriedly intercepted telephone calls in which suspected associates of Al Qaeda in the United States were overheard celebrating the attacks. In the following days, agents swept in and arrested them. (New York Times, October 28, 2001, Section 1B; Column 1; Metropolitan Desk; Pg. 2)".​

Aside that the FBI did not verify this, two things strike out immediately a) It wasn't thousands and b) it was a phone call, not a TV or eye witness report. The article did not state a number nor a location this supposed incident took place.

Considering Carson has already backed down from his claim and Chris Christie also denies such an event took place in NJ, this puts Trump behind the 8-Ball as a lying fool.

 

So you are saying that there were thousands of Muslims in the streets of New Jersey celebrating after 9/11?

 

Where has anyone said that?

 

Nah, you are wrong as usual. Sounds like you are making quite a leap for nothing.

So what? Traffic report, weather report, report cards....none of it backs what you are saying.

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More spin and propaganda.

 

Are you calling Kerik a liar? What would he gain from it?

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The Police Commish is just some guy?

 

Multiple threads on this very forum on the topic.. Dont recall those posters being on the right....