NYC Police Commissioner Confirms Trump's Claims

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  1. PatriotNews

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    Just giving some writing tips to help them better explain their position on the thread topic. If you aren't communicating
    properly then what is the point in posting? :)

    Just knowing that the faux outrage will go away once some other faux outrage story takes it's place.
     
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    Because that's all they have left to talk about. Trump has been thoroughly run through the ringer with his pants down lying. And there's no one better than to explain that truth than Lawrence O'donnell; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R69ssugwbuU
     
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    Objective analysis is difficult for people who resort to ad hominem attacks. Be patient. :)
     
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    If by that you mean that Trump will say something else even more inflammatory and idiotic, you're right. And he just did that with his racist and completely false "murder statistics"
     
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    Strawman noted.
     
  6. PatriotNews

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    Well, whether or not it is a true statistic that 81% of interracial homicides are black on white,
    the important thing is that his tweet has started a dialogue about the taboo subject of black
    on white crime.

    We have learned how to spin from the democrats.
     
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    so thousands of Muslims weren't celebrating in the streets of Jersey City, like Trump says?

    thought not.

    Trump is a lying thug.
     
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    The video does nothing to reconcile the following claim made by Trump;

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ew-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/

    There is no real dispute that there were small pockets of celebration in the USA but nothing to support the claim Trump made in the above quote. IMO Trump overstated the event in his usual dramatic fashion. If he had said "there were people who were cheering" then there would be nothing to refute. Or if he said "thousands and thousands of people all over the world were cheering" then there would be nothing to refute. I think time and time again Trump's flair for the dramatic has led to his making ridiculous claims, or perhaps he is not good at being clear and concise as he is regularly having to explain himself. I use to like Trump, but the more he speaks the more I am thinking that Hillery is the better alternative, and I really do not like Clinton.

    To me being clear, concise, and measured when making statements is an important quality to have when running for public office, a quality that both Trump and Clinton lack.
     
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    Trump's problem is that instead of admitting he was mistaken or exaggerating he just doubles down on the lie. And his followers just eat it up for some reason.
     
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    C'mon, man, Bernie Kerik? What did he see? He had his nose up Giuliani's behind all that day and for several days after that, and hundreds of cameras were on both of them. No wait, wait, it was thousands and thousands of cameras.
     
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    Indeed, and I just don't get that. Peel back all the hyperbole Trump spews and I like Trump over Clinton, but with the hyperbole he spews I do not see him as reasonable or fit to lead a Nation. He has a nasty habit of attacking the messenger rather than the message. Based upon that observation if he cannot even deal with the media or political opponents in a rational and productive way then I would hate to see how he would interact with Putin and other problematic world leaders.
     
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    So again we have people supporting Trump "whether or not he is telling the truth" because they like the idea that he is making a racist claim that isn't true.

    The fact remains...the vast majority of whites are killed by other whites.

    Saying the opposite doesn't start a dialogue. It stirs up racial hatred and fear.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Kerik just got out of jail for LYING. I wouldn't consider his unsubstantiated claims worth anything ever.
     
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    I think the statistic is true, but is being misstated. I think it refers only to interracial homicides.

    The fact remains that homicide is now the leading cause of death for black males 18 to 36 years of age.

    Saying that talking about a problem stirs up racial hatred and fear is a lot like saying
    fighting islamic terrorism creates more islamic terrorism. Stupid logic.
     
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    You see for things to be true they require evidence.
     
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    Only in a court of law.
     
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    You would would be believeable if you followed your own advice.
     

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