Obama is not to blame for events in Syria and Iraq

Western media lies about Syria exposed (Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett)
[video=youtube;g1VNQGsiP8M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1VNQGsiP8M[/video]


She was embedded in Aleppo and Syria.

 

The US didn't invade Syria or Libya under Obama.. Blaming this administration is ridiculous... cheap partisanship.

 

Again ... What should have Obama done to prevent this please?

 

Tell those at the Hill that BS. Then there is a host of others at the WSJ, Reuters, Military Times, Defense One, STRATFOR, and INS Jane.

Which leaves you looking like nothing more than a BO peep die hard supporter.

 

Yeah, we only dropped bombs on them, armed their citizens, and killed doctors without borders volunteers in hospitals drone attacks. That's clearly not Obamas fault.

 

He should have listened to his Generals and Intel for one......but then if you read any of those links I had up. Then you know he should have listened to Maliki and Abadi of Iraq.

 

But, but, but Trump said he wont even attend intel briefings everyday. So this is clearly Trumps fault for setting future presidents. And Bush's fault cause he went into Iraq after listening to his generals, so obviously the generals are inept and Obama cant be blamed.

 

So in core of all ... he should have go into Syria with full force and military on the ground too?

 

Yeah they forgot....the Peep said the same thing as Trump with his Intel Briefings. Liberals conveniently forget and illiberals, just don't care.

 

That's not what Maliki or Abadi said, and if he would have listen to them. Then the Generals would have had other options on the table. You should have read those links.

Of course it starts with the Peep telling another Leader he had to step down, had to go, leave, get out of dodge. All in backing the Saud and Sunnis play. When did you think the problem didn't start there?

 

The Republican Mantras of { Peace thru Strength } - President Reagan
and { War on Terror } - President Bush " Freedom and Fear,justice and cruelty
have always been at war,and we know that God is not neutral between them. "

" Better to be feared than loved,if you cannot be both. "
-- Machiavelli

 

We were Lied to by Obama and his Regime about the Sorties being used
in Syria.At best they were flying a dozen sortie a day where Pilots were
instructed to Call in their Targets and waited for the Go ahead.
Often times wasting valuable time,where the enemy was allowed to scatter off.

 

We were there, we were deeply involved and committed to the fight and then......we weren't. Iran and Russia said Hooray, now we can play. And so they did. Obama said Crap! Bush did it!

 

Well, Trump said it first in the future. Hell, I am sure that Trump even will say that he doesn't have all the facts or that he got all of his information from the news.

 

It started at least in 1991 ... Reason:
With Gulf War #2 (#1 was the war of Iraq and Iran) the job to stop Saddam and to throw him out of Kuwait was unfinished due to several diplomatic issues and things. Too many countries were not willing to do more as to liberate Kuwait and the US had to follow this. One of the allies was btw also Assad who sent military forces too!
This laid the base for the Bush Jr. administration who's major point was to get the job with Saddam finished and even 9/11 was something where the war hawks in the administration wanted to blame Saddam for but failed for the first.
In 2003 with the criminal attack based on lies and fakes, the complete region was messed up and transformed into a tollhouse, because that Saddam had no chance to win was clear in military, but the US had no plan for the time after military success here and this caused the mess compared with incompetence to understand anything of the region and the country and his problems which were only depressed under Saddam's terror regime!
During this time, Al Qaida get the foot into Iraq and even here under the Bush administration the ISIS was formed out of old Republican Guards of Iraq and others.
The civil war in Iraq was something which can't be won by the US without being for about 50 years in the country with big Forces and costing many lives of US soldiers too. In short ... a second Vietnam and this is a nightmare for US public!!!

Iraq is a country with 3 big groups as population (aside some minorities). Kurds in the North, being in war with Saddam regime since 1979 ... Sunni in the middle, being supporters of Saddam ... and Shiite in the South, depressed by Saddam because suspicious to be Iranian poodles etc. this combination of hating each other groups were and are only as one country controllable with dictatorship! Without Saddam, this was away and the US were not able to control the country and the hate on each other.
in the US are of course all the bombings on US troops known, but most bombs came from Sunni against Shiite and reversed.

So ... who is guilty, because wanting at all costs to kick off Saddam?

 

They are his Generals.

 

Maybe ... because honestly is there an armada named being involved, where I must seriously ask where are all targets for them to be not job-less!

But ... ask yourself why Turkey who is a victim of 2 sorts of terror - PKK and ISIS - is nearly only bombing the *peep" out of the Kurds and even bombing often other Kurds as PKK too, but rarely any ISIS position?
And ask yourself secondly why is Russia who official tell the same about that ISIS scum must be fought is at least only bombing the *peep* out of Al Nusra scum and FSA, but nearly never any ISIS position?

You know that Kurds and even this Al Nusra scum are in war with ISIS too? There is an ISIS joke milling around that they have now an own and very effective Air Force ... having Russian and Turkish symbols on the planes!

 

Exactly, that's what makes them inept.

 

Good points.

 

The Shia are the majority.....and they would back Assad, and they did. They would back Iran, and they did. It was one of the main reason BO peep wouldn't give them the Apache Helicopters and Drones. Plus the Peep had already backed the Saud and the Sunnis play to drive Assad out of Syria. Then BO wanted them to stop Iran from using a corridor to fly into Syria.

Then turns around and makes the deal with Iran. His policy made no sense and worked against itself. Maliki warned him that AQIL was making the move into Syria. BO figured he would let them. Thinking it would be the end of Assad. He was wrong.

The whole time you are speaking of.....The Russians had no play in the ME and we weren't going to let the Russians in and influencing Saddam.

 

I don't know what you blubbering on about.Saddam was trying to be the key player
in the Middle east.After he lost the Gulf War in '91 he still had plenty of wealth
and ways to corrupt the Middle East.He had built in the 90's around 70 Palaces
for his own enjoyment.He had enough clout with neighboring World Banks to
have one give his Sadist Sons { Uday and Qusay } a letter asking for
ONE Billion dollars { $900,ooo in U.S. 100 dollar bills.Uday and Qusay pulled
up in a couple panel trucks and had the money stashed in cardboard boxes.
Saddam corrupted the - Oil for Food - program by Buying { with oil vouchers }
friendly decisions needed by U.N. dipolmats and staff to Stop the Sanctions
he was put under.
Saddam and Sadist sons averaged around 30,ooo murders in and around
Baghdad,yearly.He was a true menace in the Middle East and was intent on
controlling the region.Mocking and provoking the United States,evert step
of the way.Even when CBS anchor Dan Rather personally went to Interview
Saddam and one of his Palaces/headquarters ... Saddam tried to Intimidate.
Plus he chickened out when Iraqi Freedom arrived outside Baghdad,waiting
to sweep the city of bombs placed who knows where.
Saddam fled under the city in a system of tunnels.His sons had a lot of loot
and thought they could buy their way around the invading forces.
Saddam's vaunted Republican Guard mostly dispersed and blended in with
the citizenry.

 

You got the wrong one blubbering about Saddam. As I pointed out.....we weren't going to let the Russians in to influence him.

I was talking about how the Peep didn't listen to Maliki or Abadi and why BO failed.

 

Shia are only 13% of the population of Syria....

The Russians always backed Iraq, Iran and Syria.

 

Obama is as much to blame as Bush! Obama has more than doubled drone strikes of what Bush did! Obama is the main reason we had a massive exodus/migration from out the middle east. Blowing-up hospitals and killing innocent civilians in extremely large numbers.

Perhaps you should research this more! And remember any numbers they give, it's probably safe to double them.

 

The Shia's mistreatment of the Sunni population is no minor concern, in 2013 the Iraqi government fired on Sunni protesters in the town of Hawija, killing at least 50 and wounding 100. This played a major role in ISIS capturing the city of Mosul. You have to understand that ISIS isn't this major military power, they captured the city with a mere 800 fighters. 30,000 Iraqi fighters put down their arms and fled Mosul. The Iraqi forces had to flee when battle broke out, because they were profoundly unpopular among the Sunni populous

The current battle in Mosul involves Iraqi fighters of multiple regions, and multiple religions. The Iraqi's aren't just looking to defeat ISIS, they're looking to regain the trust of the Sunnis and Kurds. I highly recommend you read this article to get a full understanding of the political climate in Iraq http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/the-hell-after-isis/476391/