Obama sending 3,000 troops into the heart of the Ebola zone in Africa.

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  1. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    Are you serious? It won't get here unless we bring it here. Sending thousands of American soldiers there helps ensure that will happen.

    There's a political reason Obama is once again abusing his authority and doing this. I think he's doing this because the rest of the world disregards him and he's desperately searching for a legacy other than utter incompetence.

    Maybe he's hoping he can be as highly regarded in Africa as his predecessor who he continually blames for every other problem on earth?
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fair, but you also suggested these doctor, engineers and trainers were instead tasked to patrol the US border.

    Luckily most of the people in your country are more human and also care about the lives of people who happen to not share your nationality.

    Obviously any military personnel (like all of the other international personnel already working in the region) should be and I'm sure will be properly quarantined and tested on their return. Theirs is not the route by which this virus is most likely to spread to Western countries and it is getting effective resources and support in to the areas currently effected that is best placed to reduce that risk, not to mention reducing the spread to all the peoples you don't care about because they have the wrong passports.
     
  3. Alwayssa

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    There is just as much danger of Ebola in the United States as there is to H1N1.
     
  4. Alwayssa

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    We are already providing research. UTSW Medical Center in Dallas Is one of the leading research centers for dreating some typoe of cure for the disease.

    However, being a superpower also means that we cannot act on our own when you have a situation that involves our interests in the region as well as other countries. The 3000 troops will provide logistical and medical support to the region where the virus is concentrated. They will be protected and will have constant screenings. Although there is risk, it is how the risk is managed, which is a concept you have no knowledge or experience in.

    This thread is a perfect example why conservatives who criticize the President on this topic cannot lead a squad of marines, guarding an outhouse in the middle of the Mojave Desert.
     
  5. Alwayssa

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    this is not about abusing his authority. The President has the legal authority to send any qualified government personnel, including military, on a humanitarian mission. The President does not need to ask permission from small minded conservatives anytime he needs to take a (*)(*)(*)(*). GEEEZZZZZ

    But here is the challenge to conservatives on this thread. Instead of complaining about it, which is easy to do, take the path less traveled by. Come up with a plan to solve this crisis that meets your political agenda. Convince people of what is needed to be done and if need be, do it yourself. Then have the courage to take responsibility if your plan does not work instead of blaming anybody and everybody. What say you?
     
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    Lol...Right-wingers can't resist playing the race card.
     
  7. Alwayssa

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    Because member of the USAMRIID in Fort Detrick, MD are probably the best at this sort of thing.
     
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    There is no group, military or civilian, anywhere in the world with the expertise of USAMRIID! The CDC consults with them daily and they have medical samples and cases from millions who have served in areas where all sorts of diseases affect people.

    BUT - they are researchers, not practitioners. They can do the proper research here in the USA. But, why then send US medical personnel to Africa what local medics can just as easily do?

    It's another Obama political stunt that will put thousands of more Americans in harm's way. :steamed:
     
  9. Tahuyaman

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    And how is this the proper or appropriate use of our military?
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    The Army has no trained medical personnel? Who knew?

    I could've sworn I lived in the city where the military trains all of its doctors and medics but apparently it doesn't have any.
     
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    When did the Right because so dickless that they fear soldiers dying while doing the right thing?
     
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    You're right. The best equipped disaster/emergency relief organization in the world is totally inappropriate to use for disaster/emergency relief.
     
  13. Brewskier

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    I never said it doesn't. I said why don't they send medical trained personnel? We have them. Why do they need the army?
     
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    sure the military trains all the medical professionals in your city.. SURE they do.
     
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    Again, the Army has medical personnel. Are you claiming that medical units and personnel are not going?
     
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    Why don't you go tough guy
     
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    I served my time and did a tour in Iraq. The Right certainly was not scared to send troops into harm's way there.
     
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    That is actually their job. going into hot zones for no reason isn't.
     
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    They are going to West Africa for a reason, so when you find a point please let me know.
     
  20. Brewskier

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    Are they the only ones going?
     
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    They are also sending engineers and security personnel.

    Would you rather they go in alone with no support, security, or logistics?
     
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    The only way you'll become infected is through contact with bodily fluids of an infected person. The troops are being sent as an aid to containing areas where the infection is rife. Quit the hysteria.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Why? Because there are not enough local medics with adequate training.
     
  23. Pollycy

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    Do any of you people have a coherent idea of how viruses are spread? Are any of you familiar with the greatest epidemic of the last 100 years -- the "Spanish Flu" of 1918? Read this before you tell the rest of us how "sure" you are that "we" can just wave a magic wand and keep these 3,000 UNITED STATES MILITARY PERSONNEL from contracting it: https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/

    I underlined "United States" above so that some of you will be reminded that these are military personnel of the United States of America!

    Not Liberia.
    Not Nigeria.
    Not Congo.
    Not Senegal.
    Not Sierra Leone
    or any of these other pestholes....

    There is certainly danger of Ebola in the U. S. IF WE IMPORT IT! Who is putting a gun to our heads and forcing us to do this incredibly irresponsible, bone-head stupid thing?! If we put a total, air-tight quarantine on all of equatorial Africa until this virus is suppressed how is it going to get in here?! We can provide research, laboratories, computer technology, etc. -- but we must not let any ONE or any THING come into this country from these regions, and, we must NOT send any of our people into them!

    Who (besides Obama) could possibly think that we should send over twice as many military personnel into a virus pandemic as we do against the murderously insane psychopaths of ISIS? Worst of all, Obama doesn't even try to keep our own borders secure from either ISIS or this virus pandemic!

    Sending 3,000 United States military personnel to the heart of a lethal pandemic-infested part of the world would be far worse than the failure of being unable to guard an outhouse, alwayssa. I don't remember anybody accusing Obama of failure to secure an outhouse, but he, and he alone is the idiot who has authorized this dangerous stunt. I do know quite a bit about the oath these military people took, however -- and nowhere in any of it is there any mention of protecting Liberia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Senegal, et al, from endemic diseases!

    The right thing? According to WHO? You?! Please, by all means, YOU go join the Army tomorrow and volunteer to go to Africa, right in the middle of the Ebola zone. Instead of ordering soldiers there, the very least the "President" should do is to ask for volunteers. There is no duty prescribed for any of our people to go get involved in this incredibly stupid, reckless mission. If we have learned nothing in the past hundred years it is that no soldier should be asked to go into dire danger for no valid reason which is necessary to the safety of the United States of America -- and being herded off on some half-assed, moronic quest against a deadly pandemic in Africa is NOT IT. In short -- Africa may be of overpowering importance to Barack Hussein Obama, but, frankly, it doesn't mean a damn thing to many of the rest of us!
     
  24. AlpinLuke

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    :eekeyes:UH?

    What have those soldiers done to deserve such a destiny?

    A part easy jokes, who has got experience of NBC teams [Nuclear Biological Chemical warfare:salute:] can understand that these occasions are precious to train troops and improve procedures [and to test equipments ... best wishes to US soldiers ...:fingerscrossed:].

    Sure those units will be helpful for the strong subjects with possibilities to survive to the pandemics.
     
  25. WalterSobchak

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    I bet you believe you are a good Christian too, huh?

    Wow, just wow.
     

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