Obama's Betrayal of Israel and Arming of Iran

Agreed.

 

In which way did the US ever profit from that relationships? The billions of dollars the US tax payer has to pay for the military aid for Israel? Difficulties with all countries which have an influencial Muslim community? In which way is it to the benefit of the US?

 

Yeah, and it doesn't appear to be much good!
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.557145
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21751766
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2...kets-fired-from-lebanon-into-northern-israel/

If you want to applaud failure, be my guest...

 

The US ruling class are deemed to benefit in the medium to long term. It's a question of geopolitics. But like I say, elements within the US ruling class are starting to question the wisdom of this unconditional support. You'd have to ask the US policy-makers and those more versed in international relations as to the specifics underpinning their rationale. I personally think that US support for Israel in terms of the affects such support has with regards to the American people, is both counterproductive and misguided.

 

That is only true for oriental Jews, they are indistinguishable from Arabs.

What to Russian and European Jews (Ashkenazi), they are very different, because they are descendants of Khazars and Slavs.

Only a few of them have Y-Haplogrups that indicate that their direct male ancestors came from the Orient (not necessarily from

Palestine).

But the direct male ancestors (Y-Haplogroups) are only a tiny proportion of all ancestors!

This picture illustrates that:



An Ashkenazi Jew with an oriental Y-Haplogoup (for example J1) may have had 1000 non-oriental ancestors and only one singe oriental ancestor, speak 99% of his ancestors may have been Khazars and Slavs.

But if you look for ALL their ancestors (direct and indirect), then you find out that most of their ancestors lived 2000 years ago not in Palestine, but in the former Khazaria (speak North Caucasus) or in the Altai Region.



http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=282956

 

They destroy Palestine, they deny Palestinians their right to exist, they say that Palestinians do not exist at all, they claim that they are just "Arabs" and that they can live in other Arab countries.

And despite of that they constantly whine about their own "right to exist" on the stolen land.

And if you do not accept their theft, they call you an "anti-Semite" that denies them the "right to exist".

Most of them do not live in Israel, most of them prefer to live in Germany or in the USA, but they whine about the right of Zionists to "exist" on the stolen and ethnically cleansed land in Palestine.

Is that not ridiculous?

 

Well, Obama has to love his sponsors, and almost all of his sponsors are Zionists.

Obama does not have any choice.

 

It's a false. They built it.

Don't judge others by your hateful views.

Find any reference to palestinian people before 1968.

Yes, they can. Jews cannot.

Of course you are antisemitic.

It's not your business.

It's too.

Remember well: those were german fascists, that stolen jewish lives and property. But now your big problem is the Israel army.

 

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Indeed Obama love his sponsors especially from the house of Saud.
Are the Saudis Zionist too,uhm??

 

You were unable to prove that I am wrong, you just played the old and tired "Nazi/Anti-Semite-Card".

Just a pathetic ad-hominem attack.

Do not attack the messenger, attack his arguments!


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Can you be more specific?
How much did Saudis contribute to his election campaign, and how many Saudis are among his advisers?



Has Obama the opportunity to make a choice between a Jew and a Muslim, if he elects a judge to the supreme court?

Is Elena Kagan a Muslim? How many Jews and how many Muslims did Elena Kagan promote?

Are there many Sauidis in Hollywood?

And if you look at the list of the Chairmen of the FED, you get the impression that you are reading the guest list of a Jewish wedding.


Alan Greenspan
Ben Shalom Bernanke
Janet Yellen

The Federal Reserve Bank is a consortium of 9 private banks with the Rothschilds at the head.

There are no Sauidi owners among these guys.



Who controls the financial system and the media, owns the government.

 

Just reading a very encouraging email indicating not one AIPAC supported bill has passed Congress in the past year.

And we see how that Israeli supported US strikes on Syria plan recently flopped.

The US public is fed up with US interference in other countries and wars in foreign countries fought for Israel.

 

If you want to get reasonable answers, you should post reasonable questions.
Your original post is all about jewish people stoling, killing and destroing. Who the hell are you to judge a whole nation in such manner?
It is not accidently, that you "missed" my question about palestinian people. Your point is not about palestinians. Your point is about jews.

 

Herodotus referenced Palestine as a province of Syria in 500 BC.. Chaucer and Shakespeare reference Palestine in their writings.

 

But this presupposes that the US ruling class are in anyway altruistic. This is where your analysis falls down.

 

The question was about palestinian people, not Palestine.
Herodotus mentioned "Syrians of Palestine".

 

No.. He mentions Syria-Palestine.

The people who lived there in 1948 always lived there.... They came with the migrations out of Arabia between 10,000 and 6,000 BC.

 

I don't mean the name of land/country, but the name of the people.
Herodotus: "The Phoenicians and the Syrians of Palestine themselves admit.."

This point needs serious proof.

 

I'm about this:

 

Arabs mixed with Canaanites, Assyrians, Greeks, Turks, Crusaders... They were there long before the Romans left... Long before Islam..... Many settled in Samaria at the time of Sargon 2.

Its rather naïve to think there was only ONE history.... even if you don't believe the old testament.

Who do you think planted all those 500 year old olive trees? It wasn't Europeans.

 

No, the first time the name "Arabs" were mentioned was around the 9th BC century (800 BC) and it was'nt in Canaan but around modern Jordan area, the name is mentioned for the first time in Shalmaneser III monolith:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolith_Inscription

The real massive migration of Arabs into Judea was in 638 CE during the Arab conquests. only then they made a majurity. they took the land by the sword and lost it to the sword, so happens to the decendants of the ppl that lived there once.

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No one argues with the 500 y old trees, its the 6,000 - 10,000 y old trees I disagree with .....

 

It really doesn't matter what you call them .. They began migrating out of Arabia 10,000 to 6,000 years ago.

They also had extensive trade with Sumer and with Egypt.

Read History Begins at Sumer by Noah Samuel Kramer.. or the Marsh Arabs by Thesinger. A lot of work has been done since, but that's a good place to start..

 

I think it makes alot of diffrence since both nations lived ever since and we are arguing on administration rights today so to speak, no one said Arabs need to leave Israel as a Jewish state, but the right for Jews to make thier own state in this land is directly linked to history, you mention Arab natives and I will mention Jewish natives. you will mention Jewish migration and I will mention Arab migration.