Obama's Betrayal of Israel and Arming of Iran

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  1. skeptic-f

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    You didn't answer my question, HBendor. My question was: why doesn't Israel reveal the size of it's nuclear arnament and promise to obliterate any nation that uses or causes to be used a WMD on Israel?
     
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    Really? I would have thought a clearcut declaration of MAD with respect to Iran would have an inhibiting effect on Iran's actions rather than an enabling effect. Just how would the knowledge of their potential total destruction encourage the Iranians to use nuclear weapons on Israel in any scenario except an Israeli attack on Iran?
     
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    Your question, your question????????????? Your agenda?
    I am not in the government and not the <porte parole> of the government, I am a citizen I know what transpires around because this is a Democracy... I am sure that Israel will retaliate in case it is attacked.
     
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    Why do that? Perhaps they have mini nukes that don't leave gama radiation behind. Talking about it would weaken their ability to play the divine fire from heaven psychology game.
     
  5. HBendor

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    We do not want foreign soldiers on our soil, we can take care of ourselves.
     
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    OK, then IN YOUR OPINION why doesn't Israel reveal the size of its nuclear arsenal and promise to obliterate any nation that uses or causes to be used a WMD on Israel? HBendor is doing more dancing around than someone waiting in line to use the toilet.
     
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    I haven't quite figured out how it is possible to betray tyranny, but I think Churchill did that with the Nazis.
     
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    Senators Appalled by Kerry&#8217;s Anti-Israel Remarks in Iran Briefing | Israel Video Network

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    And you STILL didn't answer my question!! Is this some kind of mental block? Is your English not up to the task? Which part of this are you having trouble with, HBendor?
     
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    I will answer it when I know... In the mean time you and others including me have no info.
    BTW confronting your forceful persistent demands... I do not recall you and I have any mutual contract re the above.
     
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    I imagine they don't for the simple reason that no nuclear armed nation does, it serves no purpose when the outcome of such an attack will more than likely be be proportionate and defensive as sabre rattling does not lend itself to politics when the obvious is apparent to everybody.
     
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    It most certainly does and I explained why.
     
  13. Gilos

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    What was offered was not "peace" but destruction of my state and creating a new one, typical of bigots to say " I accept you once you are gone", we simply see right throu you ppl which gives us a strait line to pee on your offer ;)
     
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    Once again, what you suggest is not peace, its destruction of country, that is an act of war, not only that but Iran does play an active role in fighting Israel which does mean we are at war, there is no way you can pass supprt in Hamas and Hizbi as a peacful act,

    Political prisoners that murder or assist in murder are not "political", continuing to occupation is most logical act considering what we deal with.

    US oppsed the one sided steps of the Palestinians - yet continue to give them money, as it opposes Israel one sided acts, if it opposes the Palestinian state I dont think there would be alot Palestinians left in the WB by now.
     
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    When Russia blames Israel of stashing Nukes and being a Fascist state you know something went bad in the Voodka production over there. :)
     
  16. Gilos

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    Since no one wants MAD and will do what possible to avoid it, the war is restricted to conventional weapons, Arabs will not fight face to face and they dont have to, they can shower missiles from far away, that conventional fighting was detered by Israeli Nuke but it wont if Iran has one - they could launch missiles assuming Israel wont go for MAD at this point, we still dont want to be showered with missiles thou.
     
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    Obama has never betrayed Israel. It's all nonsense. Everything he does is coordinated with the Israelis, or shall I say the Jews (no pun intended) since the Israeli government does not recognize Israeli nationality.

    Leave those Persians alone. They aren't threat to anyone. All they want is to control their own oil and gas fields. A peaceful development which we are trying to undermine every step of the way. Israel poses bigger threat to the world peace than Iran. A fact which only deluded people refuse to accept.
     
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    This "mutual acceptance" usually involves so many pre-conditions insisted on by Israel that it becomes unacceptable from a Palestinian point of view. For example the total intransigence on settlement building by Netanyahu.
     
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    Indeed, iran supports various anti israel causes, but thats like saying the US was at war with the USSR by supporting various small groups that opposed it. A cold war at most.

    Probably real steps towards peace with all its local neighbours. Iran has already said it supports Palestinians own decisions on final settlements.


    No thats not really true.


    How does their nuke limit Israeli defensive measures? It simply means you cannot nuke Iran in the event f conflict, you still have many other options available.

    One more thing. Given the history of Israel in the region, if you indeed opposed Israel and were threatened by various powers, would you yourself not wish to have a nuclear option?
     
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    Before the fall of the Shah Iran had a functioning democracy. Unfortunately for Iran it was the 'wrong' kind of democracy-not in America's oil interests. The overthrow of Mossadegh orchestrated by the CIA led to the Shah's installation, then to the Islamic Revolution. All of America's and Israel's issues with Iran today stem directly from 1953.
    If you want to blame anyone for your problem with that country, blame America, your benefactor.
     
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    Poppycock, the Israeli nuke doesnt deter conventional warfare. It deters a complete invasion of Israel thats it.

    What deters from war with israel is its conventional military. Saddam had no problem sending scuds to Israel during gulf war 1, when Israel already had nukes.
     
  22. Gilos

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    He and his right gov are one example of many gov's we had since the first peace initiative and we still fail to achive peace, Iran view is wrong but its in line with what possibly most Palestinians think, the fact we also have (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s doesnt mean we ARE the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s.

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    True, what I meant was heavy rain not drops here and there.
     
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    You were asked for your OPINION as to why you believe Israel does not reveal the extent of its nuclear arsenal. Why are you avoiding this? It's a simple enough question not requiring a degree in philosophy in order to answer it.
     
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    I believe Arabs have already demonstrated that they are perfectly willing to fight "face to face". Remember your invasion of Lebanon and subsequent defeat by Hezbollah?
     
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    So in Israel vs Iran you want Iran to win? Iran, the sponsor of terrorism worldwide, the complicit killer of UN troops in ME wars? Hmm. So after they kick Israel's butt, I guess they are just gonna hand over all of Israel's nukes? Nukes that couldn't necessarily be traced to Iran...Nah, I'm rooting for Israel, because I am an American, and value my life.
     
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