Only 7 Black Students Got Into N.Y.’s Most Selective High School, Out of 895 Spots

I didn't choose him at all. Kaiser assigned me a doctor.

 

Mehehehehe. That's funny. Many people on here would say Republicans mainly represent rednecks and trailer park trash. But the truth is that there is no "core" group of Republicans. This list is old, still covers Tea Party Republicans, but the Washington Post identified FIVE different groups of people who identify as Republican, none of them accounting for more than 28% of the total. Also none of them represent corporations, which while you'd think corporations would favor small government, they actually prefer using government to limit competition.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2012/08/20/the-many-faces-of-the-republican-party/

Besides Asian-Americans, there's another group of voters the Republican party is ignoring and could make great headway with, and that's the churchgoing black population. Most blacks are appalled by homosexuals using their civil rights movement to win rights for themselves, but Republicans haven't taken advantage of that to split the conservative black community from the Democrats. Blacks are also not happy with Hispanics taking their place as the "preferred" minority in American life. A good Republican candidate that reached out to blacks on these two issues could make some headway.

"Only 31% of black Democrats in America say homosexual relations are morally acceptable, roughly the same as the 30% of Republicans who agree, while very much different from the 61% of nonblack Democrats who say homosexual relations are morally acceptable."

https://news.gallup.com/poll/112807/blacks-conservative-republicans-some-moral-issues.aspx

"Blacks have also given substantial support to anti-bilingual ballot measures in California.

More than a decade later, black attitudes toward illegal immigrants (almost always seen as Latino) was put to the electoral test in Arizona with another ballot initiative. Proposition 200 mandated tough sanctions on employers for hiring illegal immigrants, as well as tighter border enforcement. Exit polls showed that more than 65 percent of blacks backed the measure. As with Proposition 187 in California a decade before, it passed by a landslide."

https://imdiversity.com/villages/hi...st-illegal-immigration-and-why-they-shouldnt/

 

You don't think certain schools not having nice things is a funding issue, when those nice things get stolen? There's a reason some schools have BARS on their windows and some don't.

That comes out in the essay. Student A who went through a lot of adversity who only slightly performed less than student B would normally get the nod because of their story and life experience. HOWEVER, lets assume student A was white and student B was black. With AA, the black kid will ALWAYS get first dibs, even if he's wealthy and didn't have to deal with diddly squat....like Obama's daughters for example. They're getting into wherever they want just on their name alone. Their true performance and abilities will NEVER be known....even if they are smart. But how can you not be when you have every advantage handed to you on a silver platter? My kids are white, Jewish and middle/upper class, 3 massive X's on their resumes when it comes to college acceptance, since no college "needs" more white people or Jews and the only scholarships they qualify for are MERIT based. No special categories and free money for the overly "privileged." =)

Remove race from the equation and let true merit and fairness choose. But Liberals can't have that.

 

How on Earth did "religious values voters" talk themselves into voting for Trump? The mental contortions required to do that would turn me into a pretzel.

 

That is a problem. Every student should be looked at holistically. God knows the colleges have enough money to do that. I think we're going to see a sea change in how admissions are done. I hope so.

ETA: I still want the student body to be somewhat reflective of society at large.

 

Sorry dear heart I was addressing the whole so call education system in the US.

Footnote for many many decades there was a limit on the numbers of Jews New York universities could or would take in for example.

Dr. Isaac Asimov for example with a tested IQ in the 150 ranges was limited in the Universities he could sign up for due to him being a Jew in the late 1940s.

No one care as long as it was not white Christians getting the short end.

 

It was mostly a vote against Hillary, which for religious values voters equalled Satan. I have seen a few religious folks talk about Trump as if he was the Second Coming, but most are not deceived into thinking that Trump is a moral example for all to follow.

 

Yet the strange thing is Asians are predominantly democrat. They voted over 70% democrat in the last election and the number seems to be rising. I work with a lot of young Asian programmers and they hate Trump with a passion.

 

That's fair. But colleges are still artificially manipulating it all for PC purposes by denying kids acceptance into programs because there aren't enough women or minorities...like engineering for example. Its totally screwed up. Co-workers daughter is purposely going into Engineering because its so much easier to be accepted and will transfer majors after the first year. Its exploiting AA and the reason its all B.S. That tactic is being investigated though, so she could get nailed for it, but we'll see. The more prominent schools are not allowing you two transfer out of engineering at all, since its so competitive. You can transfer to another specialty of engineering, but you can't leave, which is great. It removes the exploit.

The thing is society at large doesn't necessarily reflect interest or ability. No matter how much Silicon Valley wants to try, men are BETTER on average in the tech sciences than women. Its just a fact. And its partly genetics and biology. Males and females have different interests and their brains work differently and it plays out in life. Not saying there aren't brilliant female coders. There certainly are, but we're talking averages here. If you take total numbers, if significantly more men or women are interested in a particular career, its makes sense there are more of them employed. The problem comes in when if theres too many men, its a BAD thing. But when theres too many women, no one cares. Engineering vs education for example. No breaking news that we badly need more male educators, teaching our young kids and running our elementary schools. By far, women completely dominate that industry, but its not a problem. Female video-game designers is a problem though...Really? No, not a problem. Just more boys like games and want to make them. Its just a fact.

 

If you have two horrific choices, wouldn't the Christian thing to do be to sit it out? I was raised Christian. It didn't stick, but something I took away from it was: "The kingdom of God is within you" and "Do not love the world nor the things in the world."

Way too many Christians are outwardly-focused, obsessed with money, status, and politics. If one really believes in an eternal afterlife, the question of whether gays get married or tariffs on China are trivially insignificant. I've always thought the Amish got Christianity essentially right, and they're probably happier people than the rest of us.

 

Religious values voters believe there's a war on for the soul of America, and they are America's last defenders. Sitting out isn't an option for them.

 

Most asians are only superficially political

And asian culture is predominantly conformist

So they tend to follow the crowd

 

What does having dealt with adversity have to do with an educational environment? In real life, employment wise, that would be to the benefit, but not in an education environment. It doesn't necessarily change their aptitude.

And there is the grey area for discrimination. Subjective selection.

A little contradiction here, IMO. Or are you suggesting devaluing the aptitude testing in favor of specific criteria other than actual knowledge or ability to assimilate that knowledge?

 

That's a ridiculous worldview, but something I would expect if someone was born into this militaristic always-at-war gun-obsessed nation.

 

I don't think it's ridiculous. This started out as a Christian country, and now just 17% of the population attends church regularly and the official religion of the state is secular humanism. Christianity is fighting a rear-guard action to preserve its liberties and rights, and Christians are fighting to preserve their rights to have an opinion different from the far-left loons.

 

I think your opinions seem to be stereotypes. If you talk to them you would probably find they have well educated political views, I debate them all the time, and probably don't view themselves as conformist anymore than you or I.

 

Obviously, if the country becomes less Christian, the remaining Christians will... have God's wrath heaped on their heads? Be sent to Hell? The gulf between this ^^ and Jesus's essentially pacifistic message is light years wide.

And Trump is who you want to lead you into battle? Seriously? Smh

Well, all religions begin to get corrupted as soon as a church forms around them. I'm surprised they allowed in as much of the love-your-enemy stuff as they did.

 

An article from 7 years ago? That’s interesting. In the 2016 elections republicans were elected by a majority (over 60%) of only 3 groups outside of political ideology or mixed subgroups that would encompass the following: non-college educated whites at 64%, white evangelicals at 77% and white Catholics at 64%. If that’s not mainly representing religion I don’t know what it. 77% of a group is an insanely large group-think.
http://www.people-press.org/2018/08...he-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/

In latest polling the majority of blacks support same sex marriage. The fact that you believe you have inroads to blacks because of people “winning rights for themselves” is disgusting honestly. Again, it says a lot about the agenda that the republicans have taken on.

A poll from 11 years ago? Over a decade. Desperate much?
51% of blacks support same sex marriage as of 2018, it’s increasing by about 2% per year. The only groups that are against same sex marriage are evangelicals and the elderly. That’s it. And both of those population groups are being replaced by groups that are less... extreme...
If hating gays is your strategy in future elections you should probably rethink it.

That in no way is indicative of black support for republican policies — I’m for making English the national language and making our policies so hostile towards illegals that they will self-deport but republicans are represented by people with extreme and often dishonest positions — a group that I am growing further disillusioned with on a daily basis.

 

Just curious, does this school have an athletic department?

 

So voting for a three time (minimum) adulturous, three time bankrup, lying billionaire is the new value for evangelicals. That’s humorous.

 

Are you suggesting sports should be part of the exam?

 

this is a public high school, not a private high school, it shoudl be first come first serve......

 

I asked do they have an athletic department. Yes they do or no they don't.

 

No idea what has that to do with a entrance exam?

 

The way the church is alienating everyone and molesting it’s members children I think we can expect the 17% figure to drop even further. Good.

As for America being founded as a Christian country — that’s just a flat out falsehood, The U.S. Constitution is a wholly secular document. It contains no mention of Christianity or Jesus Christ and refers to religion in general only twice in the First Amendment, which bars laws "respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," and in Article VI, which prohibits "religious tests" for public office. Both of these provisions are evidence that the country was not founded as officially Christian or any other religion.