" Only the GOP can prevent a government shutdown"

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  1. archives

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    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...wn/iEB3er7JxycYcWWsI1KpXI/story.html#comments

    So is the GOP ready to shutdown the Governmemt?

    As it stands today, the GOP can't even get a proposal thru the House, a majority based body which doesn't even need a single Democrat vote to succeed

    If they do manage to get something out of the House, the sixty votes required in the Senate is questionable, they even have GOP Senators ready to defect

    And where is the President during all of this, providing leadership, nah, too busy tweeting and playing golf

    Two days remaining
     
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    Accurate title, multiple views and silence from the tRUmp sycophants.
     
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    That's because they know that a continuing resolution just needs a simple majority vote so they shouldn't even need Democrat's votes to get it past the Senate.

    In addition, once again, you have GOPers cheering about the thought of a shutdown.

    If the gov't shuts down, it's all on the GOP's shoulders.
     
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    Make them wear it like a noose.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    And where are the Democrats in all this??? Obstructing as usual.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is simple, shut the damn thing down & blame the democrat party.
     
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    Yup, thank the Democrats and Dreamers for the shutdown and Americans can ask why they aren't as important....right before the 2018 elections.
     
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    how is republican incompetence the fault of democrats? There is NOTHING the democrats can do to prevent the republican budget.
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats are the ones who are going to be hung out to dry...again....if DACA slips. Just the way it is, they've hitched themselves to the DACA horse.

    http://thehill.com/latino/366133-activists-slam-dem-leaders-over-failure-to-secure-daca-fix


    Trump has agreed to work with them on this, but they haven't given him what he wants in return. It wont be the GOP who wears this albatross.
     
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    How? The Republicans are in the majority. They can just pass it with a simple majority or even a tie that gives Pence the tie-breaker.

    The only way the Democrats could obstruct this is if they decide to filibuster which they are unlikely to do, unlike Senator Ted Cruz and his "Green Eggs And Ham Speech."
     
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    Except shut it down.
     
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    Riiight. It's funny that you think that Trump is working with anyone on this.

    This is Trump's "work" schedule:

    Obese with a chance of putting.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The dems don't even have the power to obstruct.

    What are you smoking?
     
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    how?




    Trump doesn't need the dems to give him what he wants. REPUBLICANS OWN CONGRESS.
     
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    Ohhhhh, a scary shutdown, there were riots in the streets last time that happened. Oh wait, nobody noticed, and nobody will notice if it shuts down again. Since liberals are whining the most about this, its clear they are to blame, as per their normal modus operandi...
     
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    Not fooling anyone with this, it will be your Albatross. You know it, I know it...all of America knows it. DACA is the Democrats baby. if the Govt shuts down on Citizens, and theres even a mention of DACA being involved...it wont be good for your party.
     
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    I see you don't understand basic civics. Republicans hold both houses of congress, and the presidency. Democrats can do NOTHING to stop their budget.
     
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    Because DACA is the Democrats baby. Obama launched it, and the Democrats have pinned themselves to it.

    You can't pass that to the GOP now. If the Government shuts down, and theres even a whiff of DACA involved, it's going to be on your Democrats.
     
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    I don't agree. The republicans are blaming democrats for obstructing and yet they control a majority in every house if government.

    This is nothing less then an abject failure to lead.
     
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    Well, one wonders why the Democrats even came to try and hammer out a DACA deal then doesn't it? If they thought it was all going to smash the GOP regardless, I don't think they would have even bothered do you?


    They know it's associated with their "brand".
     
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    which has nothing to do with democrats shutting down the government, since they are not able to.
    how?
    again, reality smacks conservatives in the face. REPUBLICANS OWN BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENCY. They can do nothing to shut down the government.
     
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    The Republicans just need a simple majority, which they have, to pass whatever they want in the Senate.

    So how are the Democrats "obstructing" like you are claiming?
     
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    TRUST ME... those are 2 of the best possible actions for Trump to take during any substantive policy negotiations... let the adults work things out and then let Mr. Cognitive Test get his big Trumpian signature on those results.. he said he would sign whatever they put in front of him.... let's put that theory to the test....

    Things have a 98% better chance of working out WITHOUT him than WITH him....

    SNIP
    "You guys are going to have to come up with a solution [for DACA], and I'm going to sign that solution," Trump said during a bipartisan meeting of House and Senate leaders at the White House on Tuesday morning.
    ENDSNIP
     
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    Yeah, sure thing lol.


    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/17/senate-democrats-dig-shutdown-fight-over-daca/

    Good luck trying to claim Democrats had nothing to do with a shutdown Rahl. Don't be surprised though if 2018 turns out badly for you. America doesn't always listen to Democrat damage control or rebranding as the Recent Presidential Election showed.


     
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    Republicans aren't all a hive-mind Todd, as you already know. There might need to be some working across the aisle unfortunately. isn't that what we're told people want?

    And Democrats are already digging in their obstruction heels over DACA.
     
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