Open carry

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by politicalcenter, Feb 4, 2022.

  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    And I hate people always saying now " stay safe "..... I'm tempted to start wearing helmets and knee pads and elbow pads and gloves everywhere I go you know. ... to stay safe
     
  2. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    The second amendment gives you no right other than the right to bear arms.

    It seems as though your opinion is misguided.
     
  3. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    Well it doesn't give you the right to be rude to a man's wife.
     
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    No it does not but did it rise to any level of criminal menacing is the question?
    No I'm not saying anything that she said may or may not have justified anything but I have learned myself personally that sometimes it's best just to keep your mouth shut.

    I don't know what was said and I'm not trying to find fault with either party unless there was some sort of criminal menacing.

    And no one is arguing that the second amendment gives you a right to be rude or run your mouth
     
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    Actually, the Second Amendment is what protects the First Amendment.

    If one did not have the means to ensure that the other Amendments would be protected, then what would be the point of having them at all? Natural rights unfortunately need to be protected.
     
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  6. politicalcenter

    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    You know what they say....safety isn't expensive.....it is priceless.
     
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    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    I like firearms and would love to have a handgun that blow trees in half and a fifty caliber machine gun to play with. I just have other uses for my money. But I won't carry in public. Some folks like to show off their two inches of hanging death. Ps....I am a pretty good shot.
     
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  8. Montegriffo

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    I was talking about the rudeness shown to a man's wife in this thread.
     
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    People are rude to me everyday. This doesn't mean I pick what rights they might you know hold dear and say that it's because of that
     
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    No, you wife needs to mind her own business and keep her mouth shut, before someone shuts it for her.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really, explain how the Second has negated the First.

    That is if you can which I doubt is possible.
     
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    Nothing rude about it at all, just some good advice before she gets physically hurt by sticking her nose in others business and running off her mouth about such.

    People who do that tend to have their jaw readjusted sooner or later, and to the average person come off as a raging loon.
     
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    I learned a long time ago, while out in public to not verbally engage people, you never know if someone is already on the edge and all it would take is a few misspoken words to kick em off, and having ones jaw wired back in shape is not a fun process.
     
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    Criticizing a stranger for doing something totally legal is just obnoxious and wrong. Criticizing someone for doing something totally legal who is carrying a gun is just stupid and crazy.
     
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    You have it backwards. The onus is not on the wife (or whoever) to remain silent. It's on the gun-toters to respect her right to express her opinion, and act accordingly.
     
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    If she had butted into MY business like that I would have unloaded on her in my best Drill Sergeant manner and left her in tears. Then smiled and walked away. Why do so many people feel it is their right to butt into other people's lives?
     
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    What a lovely society you live in.
    One where you feel the need to be armed to go shopping and where women need to keep their mouths shut or men will intimidate them to tears.
    A society where school children have to have regular drills on how to survive a mass shooting, sad gun nuts take pot shots at a music festival from their hotel rooms and the police regularly kill unarmed black men.
    You should be ashamed but for some unfathomable reason you worship guns, money and God in that order.
     
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    When someone says "worship guns" I know I'm dealing with an odd individual. I worship God... and maybe my wife. But someone who says I "worship" something because I like the thing is totally off the rails. I like chocolate... almost anytime or anywhere. That doesn't mean I "worship" chocolate.
    And I'm sorry, but when I am out and about and some stranger comes up to me to give me a hard time out of nowhere, they are going to find out how a Drill Sergeant deals with annoyances.
    I don't know where you are that schools have mass shooting drills. We sure don't have them here. No one here ever took pot shots at any festival revelers. That was about 1500 miles from here, if you are talking about Vegas. Police don't regularly kill anyone here... that sounds like the KGB and Hitler's SS... that's not here either.
    Finally, I don't worship money. I do like it a lot and that's why I got an Engineering Degree and an MBA. My kids love the home that the money my efforts yielded provided for them. So i don't "worship" money any more than guns... but both are nice to have.
     
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    Doesn't matter whether you like it or not. People have the right to express their opinion. And, as that includes you, you can respond by saying what you think. Silencing people through intimidation, however, is anathema to the first amendment.
     
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    No, that is not true. No one has the right to walk up to me out of the blue and be insulting. If that works in your world then you live in a place devoid of manners, a world that is totally rude, lewd, crude and absurd. Do people in your world spit at other people a lot? It would seem fit your culture.
     
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    That happens to the most well meaning people lately.
     
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    I didn't say people have the right to be insulting. I said they have the right to express their opinion and think people should do so without resorting to vulgar language, bodily or otherwise. Personally I'm perfectly capable, in response, of making it crystal clear that an unsolicited opinion is not welcome without resorting to menacing behavior.
     
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    What you gonna do shoot her? The attitude of some open carry folks is the attitude of a bully.
     
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    Besides, she never said anything to the gun owners. She was talking to our daughter and they overheard the conversation.
     
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    Your power grid sucks.
     
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