Oversized soda to be banned in New York.

Why not just force people to weigh in?

 

lol either that or you are gonna have to give 6 months notice of what you are gonna eat every day of the year and the government must approve of the menu before you feed.

 

Actually it has been put down, you just refuse to accept the fact that fat people cost us less in health cost than healthy people do. Your argument is entirely dishonest at this point. You're putting out the health costs for fat people and saying "they cost us this much" while not bothering to compare those costs with healthy people because you already know they cost more than fat people. The reality is that fat people are saving us money when it comes to health care when compared to healthy people. I'm still appalled that you want gay rights, something that has been kept from you, while simultaneously supporting laws against something as trivial as how much soda can be bought at one time. I absolutely cannot stand the attitude of "give me mine, now (*)(*)(*)(*) off I don't like what you're doing."

 

Again, your argument holds no water, because people who take of themselves live longer. So naturally they will incur more health costs in the long run. You are simply being dishonest by not mentioning this. FAIL

Also equal rights having nothing to do with this. Its appalling that you would even bring it up. Giving equal right to all does not even compare to trying to keep a healthier America.

Nice try....keep trying. You may figure it you eventually.

 

Actually, you'd have to put it into language that the gay rights people would understand before they "get it". Like, "How many butts would they be allowed to sodomize, how many pumps per session, etc." Then all of a sudden, oversized sodas becomes a gay rights issue, because it affects gay people too. See how it works?

 

The antecedent to "that," in this sentence, remains indistinct. However, if your intent was to note that education, not government compulsion, has helped to reduce the percentage of smokers in America, I would certainly agree...

 

I support gay rights and I'm not gay. It's the type of attitude the poster has I have a problem with, not gay rights. I can't stand the "well I can do what I want, but you should (*)(*)(*)(*) off because I don't like what you do and it should be banned" attitude. I still hope the poster will be able to enjoy equal rights soon, I'm just disappointed that attitude is not reciprocated when it comes to others enjoying what they want to enjoy. It actually makes me feel a little ill.

 

I'm starting to notice that attitude more and more as well. Makes it tough to give a crap.

 

I'm not being dishonest at all. I'm telling the facts; healthy people cost more. Yes, it is due to them living longer, but that doesn't change the fact. If you are going to say that "group X costs Y amount," you should make sure that amount is more than the standard.

As for equal rights that's entirely relevant. You want the right to be able to marry who you want. There are people out there who want the freedom to order/sell as much soda as they want. How you can yell about wanting to be free to do what you want while simultaneously telling others they should not be allowed to do what they want is beyond me.

Edit; Messed up the comparison part.

 

It really does. Why the hell should I continue to support people who oppose the things I enjoy. Still it's not the people but the principle that matters. We should all be free to do what we want so long as we don't cause direct harm to others.

 

Wrong, being very dishonest. IF group X costs more in the long run due to living longer, than so be it. But those cost are part of getting old. Incurring costs due to ones selfishness like wanting a 44oz soda when you don’t need it, is another. Really its amazing how I need to explain this.

The 14th amendment allows for gay marriage. Heterosexuals have special rights right now. Gays just want equal rights.

Tell me, is one group getting preferential treatment under the NYC law? Nope. Really its amazing how I need to explain this.

 

Again, obestiy is causing healthcare cost at $ 420 per ever person in this country. This is a needless cost that does not need to be.

 

What cost! If the average person costs, lets say, 100k, and a fat person costs, lets say, 75k, how the hell is the fat person costing you more?! Do you not understand basic math?

I understand gay rights are equal rights. What's pissing me off is that you want your rights while telling others to (*)(*)(*)(*) off when it comes to their liberty. It's a very selfish attitude. Justify it all you want but in the end that's what it comes down to. You want yours and you don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about anyone else. I'm done here for the night this is getting way to personal. You have no argument, you refuse to accept facts, and worst of all you want to be free to do what you want while telling others they shouldn't be able to do what they want based on some idea which is backed up by an non-argument that defies basic mathematics. This is why I hate humanity.

 

Again health people cost more. If you want to come at this from an economic perspective then we should all be smoking while slamming french fries and taking soda enemas.

Good night.

 

Do you NOT understand why? There is acceptable costs and there are unacceptable costs.

What I want is a healthy America that is not too dam lazy to compete with the rest of the world.
What I want is a healthy America that lives long lives to contribute more to society to make America better.

You can hate humanity all you want, I believe in humanity. I want humans to achieve great things. Having people die off because of crap like too much HFCS and Cigarettes is NOT going to help achieve this!

 

No, they dont. The other cost of people dieing too young is to high of a cost!

 

And I want a straight America, free from homosexual deviance and debauchery. Your lifestyle disgusts me as much as obese people disgust you. Keeping you and your kind out of the marriage pool and divorce court is, to me, an acceptable cost. I see Fing ID's point, though we disagree about gays. What is acceptable to you isn't necessarily acceptable to others..I'm posting this while drinking a nice, ice cold, 44 oz. Fanta, by the way!

 

So a 350 pound lardarse who lives as long as a fit and healthy person, but whose treatment for diabetes, stroke, cancers and heart disease costs a small fortune until he dies, somehow costs the country less?
I guess you missed the $147 billion figure somewhere. If people exercised more personal responsibility and took care of what they ate, then that enormous sum wouldn't be so horrifying, and could be significantly reduced.
America has a staggeringly costly obesity problem, and playing statistical tennis won't change it. Educating people helps but, like driving speed limits, sometimes you need to legislate for stupidity, especially when money can be saved and the nation's health improved. Unless you feel that your freedom to drive like an idiot, and kill someone in the process, would be a small price to pay for your 'liberty' to be irresponsible? Look at the following figures-particularly the first group, and tell me that nothing needs be done other than preaching 'personal responsibility' and your constitutional right to be an irresponsible and avoidably expensive citizen:

http://www.heart.org/idc/groups/heart-public/@wcm/@sop/@smd/documents/downloadable/ucm_319588.pdf

 

So, would you be on board for a skateboard ban? Injuries due to ones selfishness like wanting to ride a skateboard when you don’t need it?.



The 14th amendment allows for gay marriage. Heterosexuals have special rights right now. Gays just want equal rights.

Tell me, is one group getting preferential treatment under the NYC law? Nope. Really its amazing how I need to explain this.[/QUOTE]

 

I see it's working well in the UK.

 

It doesn't matter what we know or don't, still doesn't make it right for the government to ban its citizens from having it. That is like saying if a woman doesn't know sex leads to pregnancy, then we should tie their tubes.

 

Like this...........

As long as we're talking about the cost of lifestyles.........We must ban homosexuality for the very same reason used to ban soda.

 

how judgemental! you don't know if that child has some kind of hormone problem that makes him gain weight...maybe he has a brain tumor and the drugs are making him swell.

bullying is wrong even when it's a child with a weight problem...it's NOT your business!

 

he can call himself a merman, it doesn't make him one. I can call myself an astronaut...doesn't make me one. He's not a conservative at all.

 

says the medical expert...