Parents Lose Custody of Daughter for Opposing Transgender Medical Treatments

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  1. Texas Republican

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    You're a good father. No sarcasm.
     
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    Abuse?
     
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    Its a she who wants to be a he.

    The parents reportedly continued to call their daughter by her given name, rather than a male name, and refused to consent to hormone treatments that were recommended by her medical team. The girl claimed she became suicidal as a result of her parents’ refusal to accept that she wanted to transition to a male.
     
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    What a Stalinist view of the world you have. Children's brains are not even fully developed at the age of 17 and their decision making skills are poor, at best, as anyone who has raised a child will tell you.
    If this girl is certain she is a boy let her make the decision when she is legally entitled and living on her own. But not until then.

    Does it seem equally improper for this girl to put her parents in such distress? You probably never even considered it.
     
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    I agree. If clinicians have connected those suicidal ideations with a sense of hopelessness about gender dysphoria, and less invasive options such as anti-depressants, are not deemed effective or a\well advised by those same doctors, and these parents continue to refuse to provide for the clinically approved treatment plan, then they are not providing a safe environment for that child. This is not something that can wait until later if later may mean after he has slit his wrists.
     
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    Undoubtedly a lot of weak impulsive minds are now certain they should have a penis, or get rid of one, because that's what a lot of peers are doing. It's a societal mania, like seeing the devil or joining a cult.

    I just hope these people don't live to utterly regret how they let themselves be led around by the nose by a bizarre social craze.
     
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    I was just talking about a demagogue, probably pal of yours, in another post. That shoe size probably fits you, too.
     
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    Or perhaps the Doctors and Attorneys weren't so Awesome.

    Living in Vermont the Pelletier dispute comes to mind. It's worth thinking about.

    2013–4 (diagnosis dispute): Boston Children's Hospital became part of a dispute between medical doctors, the Massachusetts Department of Children and Families, and the parents of a teenager, Justina Pelletier. The doctors and psychologists at Boston Children's Hospital diagnosed her with (somatic symptom disorder),[22][23] a different diagnosis than the one she had previously received from Tufts University School of Medicine Hospital doctors (mitochondrial disease). Boston Children's Hospital requested that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Department of Children and Families protect and remove the patient from her parent's custody, due to concern for a situation of "medical child abuse." At the request of the Department of Children and Families and Boston Children's Hospital officials, the girl was made a ward of the state of Massachusetts.[24] Justina Pelletier was held in Boston Children's Hospital's psychiatric ward, Bader 5, from February 14, 2013, until January 2014, when she was transferred to Wayside Youth and Family Support Network, a residential treatment center in Framingham.[25][26][27][28] On June 17, 2014, the same Massachusetts judge who issued the initial ruling dismissed the case against her parents and returned Justina to her family.[29]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Children's_Hospital
     
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    "mean and negative".

    yep, you're 17.
     
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    It's not akin, it IS.
     
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    Not even close.
     
  12. crank

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    why not use our kiddies to set precedents we as adults quite like? totally reasonable.
     
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    telling your teenager to get off the screen and do some study is 'mean and negative', from the point of view of the teenager. from the point of view of the parent, it's saving the kid a lifetime of the inevitable woe which goes with a poor work ethic.

    you don't have to be 17, to be a child.
     
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    Insults are the very least we can do, at this juncture. We're talking about CHILDREN, so I don't personally give a damn if it upsets adults.

    Having said that, I agree that Bible readings are almost as stupid as transitioning. My guess is that the parents hoped that some sort of conscience would kick in. Better than nothing. And certainly better than the inevitable lifelong (short life, most likely) depression etc this poor girl will suffer.
     
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    The abuse will be done by her 'medical team' and any enabling adults.
     
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    The father did not reject the delusion. Any more than a parent 'rejects' the proposition that their 4 year old is a fireman, or a giraffe. It's simply ignored, in the child's best interests.

    I know a kid who was encouraged by his idiotic poseur parents to self-express throughout elementary school. The poor thing was led to believe that the world would adapt to him (just 'cause), and that he was far too special to have to adapt to the world. What do you think happened to him in high school? Reality let him know - loud and clear - that he was no more special than anyone else. So who is responsible for this kids' unnecessarily difficult introduction to reality? His parents? Or the world?
     
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    Well, that's a horse of a different color. I can't even begin to analyze that.

    Being a guy ain't all that great. We get cheated in divorces and TV commercials selectively mock only white males.
     
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    Transgenderism was never any more of a secret than schizophrenia. What are you talking about?
     
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    I bet that family's Thanksgiving dinners are a little tense...
     
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    I have a feeling some people may be reading this and having a light bulb go off in their head.

    "Oh, you mean for my child's good I don't have to indulge every single silly whim and notion that comes into his head? Really?
    I never considered that before."
     
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    Brietbart.
    We know it is a 1 sided story.
    Move along.
     
  22. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The parents in this story lost their kid because liberals said they didn’t have an open mind. Perhaps you should open yours before you lose your kids.
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/13/health/transgender-teen-medical-custody-fight/index.html

    (CNN)An Ohio court will decide the fate of a transgender teen who is in what the judge describes as a "gut-wrenching situation."

    The 17-year-old identifies as a boy. Neither he nor his family can be named, according to court instructions. The teen's parents want court authority to stop their child from getting the treatment and therapy that was recommended by his medical team in what it characterizes as a possible life-or-death situation.

    Medical experts testified that the father's ongoing refusal to call the child by his chosen name and the parents' rejection of the teen's gender identity have triggered suicidal feelings.

    The teen was hospitalized in 2016. He has been diagnosed with depression, an anxiety disorder and gender dysphoria, according to court records. Gender dysphoria is a psychiatric diagnosis the American Psychiatric Association defines as "a conflict between a person's physical or assigned gender and the gender with which he/she/they identify."

    The teen is in the temporary legal custody of Hamilton County Job and Family Services and lives with his maternal grandparents, who want custody and are supportive of the teen's gender identity. He wants to stay with them.
     
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    The story is brietbart. Hardly an accurate story.
    Got a real new source?
     
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    There, thanks.
    The teen is removed because of severe depression, much caused by the parents not understanding the childs position. Or not wanting to.
     

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