Part 19 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Jesus and Elijah spoke together, Moses present. Matt.17:3 & 11-13. So was Jesus lying?

 

In Matthew 15:24 Jesus stated that he had been sent only to the Jews. So why do Gentiles keep calling him a liar?

 

What is the difference between having faith and pretending?

 

Mitt wants to give everybody the mpression he's a "Biblical scholar"...but he's not.

He's like a guy who claims to be a "doctor" "taking questions" who is no MD and just goes to a medical wiki to Cut & Paste commonly asked questions.

You see, when he gets stumped quite easily....he goes into the SAME old attacks any other fundy Christian goes into "You just HATE GOD!!!!" or "You'd understand how it's NOT a contradiction if you were filled with the Holy Spirit like me" or "You're just too ignorant and un-informed to understand the logic and factual basis of 2+2=5."

 

Then you also should cut through all of your presumptions regarding people you have never met in person. That presumptuous attitude is also a condition of ignorance. Do you even know my real name? No? Then you are ignorant of that subject matter... that subject matter being me.

"pre·sume (pr-zm)v. pre·sumed, pre·sum·ing, pre·sumes
v.tr.1. To take for granted as being true in the absence of proof to the contrary:"

"pre·sump·tion (pr-zmpshn)n.1. Behavior or attitude that is boldly arrogant or offensive; effrontery.
2. The act of presuming or accepting as true."

 

Then one must question the meaning of the word 'real'.
Which definition is more in line with the context in which you are using the term?

"re·al[SUP] 1[/SUP] (rl, rl)adj.1. a. Being or occurring in fact or actuality; having verifiable existence: real objects; a real illness.
b. True and actual; not imaginary, alleged, or ideal: real people, not ghosts; a film based on real life.
c. Of or founded on practical matters and concerns: a recent graduate experiencing the real world for the first time.

2. Genuine and authentic; not artificial or spurious: real mink; real humility.
3. Being no less than what is stated; worthy of the name: a real friend.
4. Free of pretense, falsehood, or affectation: tourists hoping for a real experience on the guided tour.
5. Not to be taken lightly; serious: in real trouble.
6. Philosophy Existing objectively in the world regardless of subjectivity or conventions of thought or language.
7. Relating to, being, or having value reckoned by actual purchasing power: real income; real growth.
8. Physics Of, relating to, or being an image formed by light rays that converge in space.
9. Mathematics Of, relating to, or being a real number.
10. Law Of or relating to stationary or fixed property, such as buildings or land."

My claim is that the Holy Spirit is 'fact": something believed to be true OR real.

 

Elijah was LEAVING jesus, returning as the son-of-man to face the Cross.

The word "transfiguration" in the greek Bible is "metamorphosis."

Metamorphosis is when a worm turns into a butterfly.

Matt. 17:2 And was transfigured, (metamorphized, as he emptied himself of the Holy Ghost of Elijah: [Matt 28:19]), right before them, (the soul of Elijah, now departing from him: [Ps 22:1]): and his face did shine as the sun, (as had the face of Moses in the presence of God, on the mountain), and his raiment was white as the light: [Rev 1:13-15].

 

This was because he was the Elijah, and only the Jews are going to accept this now, and very shortly.

The Gentiles tried to make the story out that Christ was the messiah ben david, not the suffering messiah ben Joseph.

 

He was telling the truth.
Elijah had just left him on the mountain top.


11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things.

12 But I say unto you, that (the son-of god), Elijah is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man, (Jesus now), suffer of them.

 

We Christians believe that the Bible is the Word of God not because it was written by man but because it was dictated by God to man so that man can learn and evolved and use the Bible as a blue print to build a better world. Jesus Christ didn't have to write because he is already the living proof that is why his disciples and other man inspired by Jesus Christ will take the task to write so that humanity will not forget.

 

God is all good because He gave humanity a fighting chance against evil and wickedness and stop the evil and wicked people from over whelming this world from brutalizing humanity, from ethnic cleansing, from committing infanticide and cannibalism. When all hope seems lost for humanity God step forward and intervene God will give guidance to his people in defeating the wicked and evil enemies of humanity. Today man has evolved to become more responsive against evil and are now strong enough to act and make tough decision on their own with out God having to intervene. Thanks to God humanity has gain strength and has evolved into a community of nations ready and able to stand up against evil.

 

You just said infanticide is evil (which is true).....yet you admit God killed children in the Flood...i.e. committed infanticide.

 

This whole idea became important when people tried to give meaning to the Greek word, "logos."

But logos actually mean just one word.
Truth seem the proper substitution here, since Christ told us he was the idea called Truth, and that defined God as Reality.

John1:1
In the beginning was the word (Truth: [see John 14:6]), and the (one) word, (Truth, itself), was (synonymous) with God, (Reality or Father of Nature), and the (one) word, (Truth: [John 14:6]), was (indistinguishable from Reality), God, (almighty for all men).

2 He, (Truth, the symbolic Word to come: [Jud 1:3]), was with God, (Reality), in the beginning, (by definition).

Jn 1:3 ALL (real) THINGS, (phenomenally), came into existence through him, (this concept of Truth), and apart from him, (Truth), not even ONE thing came into (man's mental model of the external world of his) existence.


You also can see how this explains the idea of Trinity, in that Truth is the image of Reality, (Gen 1:26), and man knows Reality only when he has discovered the Truth about it.

 

But Elijah was dead. Been dead physically centuries.

The things people make up, texts taken out of context, imaginery meanings, just to prove their favourite fantasy.

 

Jn 1:3 ALL (a device for punching holes in leather or wood) THINGS, (items belonging to the Addams Family cousin), came into existence through him, (a garment finishing method, where the edge of a piece of cloth is folded narrowly and sewn to prevent unravelling of the fabric), and apart ( a Belgian manufacturer of fixed install audio solutions) from him, not even ONE thing (the CD from "One Direction") came into (the horror film starrring Jude Law and Jennifer Jason Leigh) existence.

 

God is good to man because he created Truth as the light into the future, as Reality unfolds and requires that we adapt to it.

 

The HS cannot be 'fact'. Fact is something known or proved to be true.The HS is not proven to exist even to those who believe in it. Nor is it proven to exist to Christians. It's simply a matter of belief.

 

God's laws require all species to adapt to his Reality as it unfolds or go extinct, man, women, and infants alike.

Hard as this seems to you, because you could disappear as a type of mankind yourself, the next evolution will be an improvement in us who survive.

 

Cupid, I'll ask...but I seriously doubt you'll give me straight, to-the-point answers to these questions-

1. Is killing children good or evil?

2. Did God kill any children with the Flood?

 

Let me correct you here, Elijah did not die, according to the Bible, Elijah and Enoch are the only two people God took to heaven without them dying.

In the case of Elijah, we read in Scripture, "As they were walking along and talking, suddenly a chariot of fire appeared, drawn by horses of fire. It drove between the two men, separating them, and Elijah was carried by a whirlwind into heaven."---2 Kings 2:11 NLT

The things non-believing people don't know about the Bible, it's because they never sat down and really read the Bible in its entirety and yet they arrogantly say things that are falsehoods not supported by Scripture.

 

The Holy Spirit is a frame of mind.
It is the one which holds Truth in its thoughts.

"I am the Truth,... and the way and the life"... (John 14:6)

 

Yes God killed all the Neanderthal men, women and children.
They went extinct.

Only the three racial stocks of Ham, Japheth, and Shem were left to populate the whole world to the mountain tops.

This called Extinction.
Extinction happens when species can not or do not or will not adapt to the new unfolding Reality.

 

If someone killed a Neanderthal child...is that infanticide...and is infanticide an evil act?

 

hahhaaaaa...

LOL
Right.
Anyone can interpret scripture and place their ideas in bracketed commentary.

But your ideas do not help us at all.
They are unrelated to defining the God which is a Trinity, whereas mine do.

Why not accept the interpretations which make sense and support the Bible??

 

For man, Murder is breaking the commandments.



But God does things which are evil in our opinion.
And he tells us that Reality is just that way:

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.