Part 19 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    No, my post was directed at Giftedone...couldn't you tell?
     
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    If the holy spirit is God, they you'd be speaking for God via the HS.
    If the holy spirit is NOT God, then, how do you know the authority of the HS and who gives this HS its directives? Could it not be satan?

    Afterall, isn't satan suppose to be the master of deception?
     
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    No, He isn't.
    No, you and everyone else know these weren't war crimes.
    No, not murder.
    Satan isn't God's son
    No we don't. That's a fabrication of your own making.
    I've been absolutely accurate. You haven't. If anyone needs to be serious
    it's you. So far you haven't been.
     
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    And you wonder why some respond with tripe to you. You do the same. Some respond in kind.
    All you did in all of the above response was say, No. Nope your wrong.
    You didn't offer any reason to your responses at all.
     
  5. Mitt Ryan

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    Good point WR! If a person claims he hates nothing then why does he expresses his hatred of Almighty God who as we Christians know punishes evil.

    You would think that people would hate all the evil going on and so why would any sane person hate someone who punishes this evil. That's what God does, He punishes evil.
     
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    Not true. I've answered seriously.

    You, on the other hand, haven't. Is it because you can't? All of your
    answers show a lack of understanding.
     
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    Well let us put a stop to such burdens to you. If you quit stalking me and asking thousands of questions that are not relevant to the thread topic, then you would not have to be writing so much and wasting so much bandwidth. Now because you are not interested in such conversations, and because you have directed that statement toward me, then I will not waste my time or yours by responding to your drivel listed below.

     
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    That comment has no relevance to me or anyone else that I know about. Most of it is not even written in the English language... what did you say is your native language?

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    Not likely on this forum... too many non-theists involved.

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    Obviously you don't know. I have consistently claimed nondenominational. Try again.
     
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    Wrong, scientists claim the universe had a begining and so hydrogen has not been in existence for all eternity.

    God didn't come from somewhere for He has always existed, He simply exists.

    Did the explosion (Big Bang) happened from out of nowhere?...from nothing? That doesn't appear logical because everyone knows that something does not come from nothing. So, if God is a "something," then He must have a cause, right?

    The question is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that God came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, “What does blue smell like?” Blue is not in the category of things that have a smell, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created or caused. God is uncaused and uncreated—He simply exists.

    How do we know this? We know that from nothing, nothing comes. So, if there were ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence, then nothing would have ever come into existence. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been in existence. That ever-existing thing is what we call God. God is the uncaused Being that caused everything else to come into existence. God is the uncreated Creator who created the universe and everything in it. God has no beginning, has no ending, God is eternal. God is responsible for all creation.

    There are things which come into existence. Everything which comes into existence is caused to exist by something else. There cannot be an infinite series of past causes. Therefore, there exists a first cause which did not come into existence. In other words, the first cause always existed...which we call God.
     
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    You're right. I've yet to find anyone who has a reasonable argument.
     
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    IMHO, arguments are usually the result of people approaching one another from entirely different viewpoints regardless of subject matter, and one or the other has it in mind that he/she will attempt to compel the mind of the other to accept what he/she says as true. That is why 'private' religious discussion groups are much better than this one and is also why this forum has so many different sections where one could go to discuss such things as science, politics, etc.... but ... as it would be .... some don't know where to discuss matters that they are more fitting to their own views on such subjects. Such is life in the public forums.
     
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    You answer, no, your wrong is not a serious answer. Just tripe.
    What answer shows a lack of understanding? Specifics please.
     
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    Is there free will in heaven? Lucifer and other angels chose to be disobedient to God. So they must have had free will.

    But, if God knew they were going to be disobedient, then I say no. They followed God's plan.
     
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    Does heaven exist? If you don't know if heaven exists, then you don't know if there is free will in heaven. Have you ever been to heaven?


    Are you then admitting that heaven does exist?

    Then you admit that God has a plan?
     
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    Stop the trolling.
    You were not addressed the questions.
    If you want to answer them, go ahead.
     
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    I did answer them. I answered them by returning to you similar questions. As for your post not addressing me... so what.... it is a public forum... or did you overlook that little FACT?
     
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    An answer doesn't include a question. A question includes a question.
    And how could I overlook the simple fact when I stated answer them if you wish.

    But I did specifically ask you questions a little while ago, you seem to conveniently ignore. So you are trolling. It is your modus operandi.
    post #77
     
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    On this forum, an answer can include anything including other questions. If you don't believe me, then just ask some of the non-theists on this forum who are approaching stardom for such wild achievements.

    What specific questions did you ask me that you say I conveniently ignored?
     
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    Post 77. Look thru your notifications. You got one. I'm quite sure.
     
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    Those are hypothetical situations... "if".... I thought you had some questions that deal with reality... you know the stuff that can be tested and validated and verified and all that kind of good hogwash. But no... you want to play guessing games... what am I holding in my hand right now?
     
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    ROFL - I give quotes from the Bible supporting every claim that I make and your response is ignore all of these quotes from the Bible and cover ear, eyes, nose, mouth or anything else that might let the bad news in and cry "No, No, No... your wrong, your wrong, your wrong"

    Classic denial.
     
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    The truth hurts. Thought I would just cut through your disingenuous pretense of ignorance and call a spade a spade.

     
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    I thought the HS was real. You keep claiming it to be so. Therefore the question may by hypothetical to Dairyair, but surely to you it is a real question. If you see what I mean.
     
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    How can you dismiss the DOZENS of passages in 1Kings which DUPLICATE the gospel account for what Jesus experienced?
    You deny he was The Elijah, returned as promised.

    I KNOW that your church teachings differ from these FACTS, but you are trying to be reasonable with us here, are you not???
     
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