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Bologna. The cops can take care of right-wing gun nuts if the country is against them which they always are. This is the kind of nationalism and right-wing hysteria that happens after a corrupt GOP World depression. We can see some of it today in Hungary and Poland and brexit and Trump. You get economic refugees from places like sub-Saharan Africa and Central America. And Poland and Bulgaria and the Middle East. Thanks for destroying the Middle East to. The GOP is a catastrophe ongoing. Only hate character assassination and misinformation propaganda makes it possible.

 

Ah yes ...very witty.
I am quite aware by now that you enjoy creating amusing proverbs...but do they really serve a purpose
other than giving you the same satisfaction you might get from winning a hand of poker.
We already have books containing thousands of proverbs from many cultures. They are mostly
after-the-fact reminders of what or what not to do...basically history. If history was a deterrent
from ignorance perhaps we would not be where we are today.

 

Of course history is a deterrent to ignorance. The American problem today is the GOP propaganda machine has developed an entire imaginary history where right wing is good and left-wing is wrong. One major way they did it is to say that Nazism is a left-wing socialist ideology. Absolute crap. Socialism is always democratic. That's why the Soviet Union was thrown out of the definition as soon as the truth was found. Today socialism is Bernie Sanders always Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net. It is been that way for decades in most of the non-english-speaking world. UK conservatives and the GOP are the worst fear-mongering parties in the modern world especially with Trump and brexit. GOP is the worst. And everyone outside your bubble of propaganda would say the most misinformed.

 

Hmmm. Perhaps if I had said "history as pertaining to proverbs" you would not have beaten me up so bad.

 

Don't take it personally it's GOP propaganda I rail against. What kind of proverbs do you mean? At any rate I'm talking politics not proverbs.

 

I know, you don't like documentation. Only innuendo and conspiracy.

 

You would have to read back a bit further to bricklayers comments. Unfortunately, I raz him once in a while.
As far as your thoughts in this thread...they seem realistic enough to me.

 

Actually, although he may have used some underhanded tactics, it seems he gained power by the Democratic principal of voting.....

“He managed to disable the Communist party with propaganda and by openly raiding the Communist Party offices which then gave him enough votes to defeat the Social Democrats.
When the Nazis openly raided Communist Party offices and suppressed their publications, a lot of people didn’t see it as a loss of rights. They saw it as a political party finally taking charge and doing something to make Germany a better place to live.
The Germans held another election on March 5, 1933. This time, though, the Communist Party wasn’t allowed to participate. With one opposition party out of the way, the Nazis got a majority government.”

It's what occurred after the above that gave him the absolute power to override Democracy.

 

Kinda like left wing operations like Twitter banning conservatives.

 

Ah, the almighty cops...

How many 'cops' do you think it would've taken to 'take care' of 7 million jews if just each jew were armed?

An insurgency of 7 million would have been quite a deterent, given that its just over half of all the soldiers the German Army mobilized during the entire war.

But ya, 'cops' would've handled it no problem...

 

Let's just pretend that this conspiracy theory is true. Aren't they allowed to do so?

 

Suppose everyone in the CP offices would have been carrying a firearm for self defense. Do you think history would have turned out differently?

 

No conspiracy theory and much the same tactic.

 

But, you agree that if they wanted to purge conservatives, they have that right correct?

 

Maybe not...he had the law on his side....
"Days after Hitler became chancellor, a Communist sympathizer named Marinus van der Lubbe burned down the Reichstag, the German parliament building. He had almost certainly worked alone, but the Nazis seized on the opportunity. This, they declared, was proof that the Communists were planning to violently overthrow the state.
The Nazis used Article 48 to put through the Reichstag Fire Decree. Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, the right to assembly, and restraints on police investigations were all suspended until the Communists could be put under control."

 

I'm really not as interesting as your attentions imply. Can we get back to discussing ideas rather than people?

 

That is the GOP propaganda way all the way. The rest of the world outside the bubble of propaganda degrees including law enforcement and all respected journalists around the world. It's not a conspiracy it's a propaganda machine. All Trump had to do to take over the GOP was parrot the garbage character assassination and phony scandals. Now they all do... nothing proven no one even indicted on the Democratic side. .... no scandals whatsoever under Obama. If you think there are, you believe in garbage propaganda.

 

Yes. The Nazis would have all gotten guns and killed them all. Along with the police and the army. If the police didn't do it in the first place. Armed civilians don't do well against the government. It is a false argument for arming the populace. What you get with lots of guns is lots of shootings especially in a country with no mental health system thanks to the GOP. Or background checks for every sale.

 

So the entire Jewish population men women and children would be magically armed all of a sudden? A ridiculous idea. Nazi Germany was the results of bad Economic Times thanks to the GOP as usual and nationalist racist ideology and a great orator and Promises of jobs jobs jobs. But that was no socialist! For that ridiculous Theory....

 

The most votes he ever got was 37% before he was appointed Chancellor buy Hindenburg. A big mistake then the reichstag fire and dictatorship basically. 37% appears to be about as many people as you can brainwash LOL aaarrrggghhh.

 

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The most votes he ever got was 37% before he was appointed Chancellor buy Hindenburg. A big mistake then the reichstag fire and dictatorship basically. 37% appears to be about as many people as you can brainwash LOL aaarrrggghhh.

 

QUOTE="hellofromwarsaw, post: 1071334815, member: 66783"][/QUOTE]
The most votes he ever got was 37% before he was appointed Chancellor buy Hindenburg. A big mistake then the reichstag fire and dictatorship basically. 37% appears to be about as many people as you can brainwash LOL aaarrrggghhh.

 

The Mueller report calls Trump conspirator number one because he ordered what Cohen and manafort went to prison for for crying out loud.

 

Not "magically"... we were talking about the rise of Nazism in the context of the rise of civic nationalism today, correct? Ridiculous false equivalencies between the two aside, here in the US where political minorities fearing persecution have every opportunity to arm and train themselves in defense, there's no magic required. Just a bit of willpower.

The Jews in 1920s and 30s Germany could have armed themselves as the racist furvor and propaganda against them grew. There were gun regulations of course, but guns weren't unobtainable. Yet they chose to rely on ...well, I dunno what they thought was going to protect them. Just like I don't understand what people who comically think Trumpers are going to kill them are relying on today.

The bottom line is, every genocide and purge in history was perpetrated against people who largely were unarmed, by people who were armed. It doesn't make any sense for people fearing a similar persecution today to remain unarmed, especially when they aren't even legally compelled to do so.