Pope Contradicts Views Of Conservatives and Neo-conservatives

I don't hate Christians; but I'm beyond certain that some people 'labeling' themselves as "Christians", are people I want zero to do anything with.

 

because he likes to call himself a christian.




seriously

 

And why do these same people bend over and grab their ankles for Islam, a gar more oppressive, anti-woman, pompous, self-righteous and hypocritical religion? Liberals are insane.

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Oh my gosh...

 

Well the first thought to though is no (*)(*)(*)(*). So would I. I would also take a good christian over a bad atheist.

 

How about some that label themselves differently? They're all fine, it is just those damn Christians, right?

 

That's what I thought you had said before but I didn't want to assume. To me agnosticism is the more logical choice.

 

It ultimately became clear to me. All I had to do was compare the behaviors and actual values of many on the "Right", to the ways and values of Jesus the Christ.

I didn't really want to see, what I eventually saw. Still, two significant things happened (among other things):

1. I uncoupled my politics from my 'religion' per se.

2. I no longer believed in the notion that the "Right" had THE superior moral values.

And surely, I didn't arrive there overnight.

 

I have witnessed many of the same traits coming from atheists and secular humanists. In fact I have yet to encounter a single secular that wasn't an ass. The simple fact of the matter is that (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) bags are in every walk of life. The same with genuine caring people as well. It would be stupid to act like the majority of a group behaves a certain way. Otherwise you're just being the ass that you claim them to be.

 

dude.

look into islam a bit more. they have some off the wall freaky (*)(*)(*)(*) that is approved of.

if wifey (or wifeys? all good either way in mohammeds hood) isnt around, and you are so inclined, Allah will not look down on you if you find your penis inside of a sheep's ass, or a dog. not into the whole goat (*)(*)(*)(*)ing scene? no worries, to each there own friend, you create your world, in the land of islam, so find yourself a cute 12 year old boy to bring you and your friends tea and extract your semen using his anus.

you cant make this stuff up.

iran pays for people to have sex changes, on the taxpayers dime. very progressive choice iran.

we can always count on the left for truth and integrity.

 

Bottom line:

The "Right" has no exclusive claim to moral superiority or greater 'closeness' to God The Creator.
(Even so, many on the Right often COMMUNICATE the notion that they are indeed morally superior to those on the Left.)

 

Really, those on the political Right should indeed compare their talk, with the WAYS of Christ. In doing that, it is not difficult to see serious discrepancies.

 

It's not about being superior to anyone. It's just about doing what's right. Do you understand the difference?

 

YOU need to explain that difference (as you perceive, believe or know it)... so people know where you are actually coming from.

Without that reference requested above, no one will actually know what you mean/understand.

 

Really, those on the political left shouldn't (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and complain about religious people and then turn around and behave and act like them. It's complete hypocrisay on their part and it's not a rare occurence either.

 

I find this Pope's views the first breath of fresh air in organized religion in years. While I can point to "Christians" in every direction it is exceedingly rare to find one that truly believes in the doctrine he professes. Religions is "supposed" to be about the teaching and living of morals and ethics. I hear a lot of people quote the Bible but very few that live by its examples.

What Pope Francis is telling us is being a Christian is not about what you believe about Jesus, it is about how you live your life every day. It's the choices you make about your actions and how you treat your fellow man. Professing faith is meaningless without living the values and just because you may not share an opinion on historic events does not disqualify you from living a good and fulfilling "Christian" life.

 

Pope Francis has decided atheists that do good will be redeemed

I'm not a believer. I probably would/will not agree with Pope Francis on many issues. Still, I googled this matter. I might not always agree with him but I think I just might like this guy. Statements like this are something for which one can be grateful.

 

I agree wholeheartedly. I would only add that NO ONE has that claim. Like you, I laugh at anyone claims to. Honestly, I think the only difference here is you are simply more anti-Christian than I am. You could probably point other groups I am equally opposed to.

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Statements. Blah. I would like to see action, like a news conference in which this Pope announces full cooperation with law enforcement on pedophile priests, backed up by action.

I hear you though, I do concede I have heard some decent things from him. However, he is basically still a politician. In my opinion, that's not a good role for the leader of a church that can and should stand on principles.

 

Well, keep your eyes and ears open, to see why too many on the Right are most often the greatest 'religious' hypocrites there are.

Certainly, I'm not the only one noticing this hypocritical talk and behavior. And it surely chased me AWAY from Conservative politics over 20 years ago.

 

I'm not exaggerating or being extreme. And I've certainly paid attention to what the Right does concerning 'religion'. That's all people need to look at to see what I'm pointing out. And I think it is VERY interesting to see that many on the Right ARE being called-out for their obvious hypocrisy. Honestly, there is nothing NEW about this.

 

No theire isn't. I would be lying if I said otherwise. However my argument is not in defense of the religious right but the pointing out of the duplicitous behavior of the left who pretend to be morally superior superior when a lot of them act just as petty as the people they're complaining about. Their is legitimate good people on both sides as I have mentioned earlier but the ones who bark the loudest are the ones who get noticed and that's what we're both witnessing with these people.

I also don't think it's fair to pretend that one side is better then the other. I don't believe our world, at least within a forseeable amount of time, is going to give up religion. While most atheists believe the logical thing to do would be for people to give up god

 

Sorry man. The Left simply does NOT 'pretend' about religion as much as the folks on the Right do. And that is one significant reason that I and many others have stepped away from that 'side'.

 

Except the left do "pretend" that they are morally superior and act just like the people they're whining about. I don't see how that makes them better and in fact it drives me away from them.

 

Just keep your eyes open and see.

Also, I'll try to remember that I'd rather not hear any politician of political group call out the name of "God". They almost always misuse or abuse religion in some way.

 

I find your reply interesting. Are you a Christian? If so, do you believe that non-Christians go to heaven? Are you claiming there aren't Christians who believe that only Christians go to heaven?
If not, how can you speak for a group of which you are not a part?

 

Nope. . .it's based on observation and logic!